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Farewell to the GOP, for now at least! (Vanity Rant)
6-21-2006 | Mr. Hammer

Posted on 01/23/2006 5:51:10 AM PST by mr_hammer

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To: Tijeras_Slim; martin_fierro
When lads have done with labor
In Shropshire, one will cry,
“Let’s go and kill a neighbor,”
and t’other answers “Aye!”

So this one kills his cousins,
and that one kills his dad;
and, as they hang by dozens
at Ludlow, lad by lad,

each of them one-and-twenty,
all of them murderers,
the hangman mutters: “Plenty
even for Housman’s verse.”

— Humbert Wolfe.


161 posted on 01/23/2006 9:03:49 AM PST by dighton
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To: mr_hammer
I just want it know!

Do you mean "want it NOW" or "want to know"? Spelling is our friend.

162 posted on 01/23/2006 9:05:15 AM PST by NELSON111
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To: MACVSOG68

If Ross Perot hadn't had a hissy fit and gone on a huge ego trip, we'd never have had Clinton. Clinton moved the country and the party farther left than I thought possible in my lifetime.

For all the talk about how Clinton was moderate and triangulated, he is also the person who hated and descimated the military, sold our most valuable national security secrets to enemy countries in exchange for cash, and tried to impose nationalized healthcare on the country.

This is what the unappeasables have given US! And they think they have ANYTHING worth saying that we're going to listen to? I don't think so.


163 posted on 01/23/2006 9:09:08 AM PST by Peach
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To: MACVSOG68
Claiming you were dupped into voting for Bush in '04..

Wrong here, also. I was railing against Bush even before he got the nomination the first time. He did not fool me then, and his actions have proven me to be correct in my evaluation of him.

(my post) How about the Republican nominating a conservative once in a while?

SB: Republicans nominating a conservative.

In my state (Iowa) we conservatives have tried for years to get the more conservative nominated to state and national candidacy, only to have the Republican state machine say something stupid like: We must nominate someone ELECTABLE! Meaning; someone like another RINO.

This has happeded so many times, Governor, Senator, U.S. Representative, and of course, U.S. president, that those of us who are tired of trying are going to try something else for a change.

164 posted on 01/23/2006 9:12:50 AM PST by Designer (Just a nit-pick'n and chagrin'n)
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To: Designer

Seems I should try to calm down and proofread for spelling errors!


165 posted on 01/23/2006 9:15:46 AM PST by Designer (Just a nit-pick'n and chagrin'n)
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To: MACVSOG68; don'tbedenied; rdb3; Alia; Peach; freedumb2003; Warren_Piece; conservativecorner; ...
Funny, I thought this was a Conservative site as stated by Jim R. I believe it not to be the RNC site.

All of which I have stated echo conservatively values. I seek no middle political ground.

Statement by the founder of Free Republic
Free Republic ^ | Jim Robinson

Posted on 03/22/2004 9:22:17 PM EST by Jim Robinson

I posted the following statement to our front page in response to the criticism I'm receiving lately as to not being fair and balanced and perceived mistreatment of trolls and assorted malcontents. Got news for all, I'm NOT fair and balanced. I'm biased toward God, country, family, liberty and freedom and against liberalism, socialism, anarchism, wackoism, global balonyism and any other form of tyranny. Hope this helps.


From those whom have chosen to try to discredit me, your tripe little digs are cute. They just do not address the issues I have raised.

Further, I am but one of many Social Conservatives here in Ohio that seemed rather disillusioned with what the Republicans have done the last 6 years.

My motives? To let the boys and girls in D.C. know that they are quickly losing the social conservitive base. The base they needed to attract to attain the positions they currently hold. Any further movement to the middle will cause this base to fracture away.

Right now, they have lost my cash. If the keep on the current path they might loose my vote. Kinda like tough love, ay?
166 posted on 01/23/2006 9:18:39 AM PST by mr_hammer (They have eyes, but do not see . . .)
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To: RebelBanker
Whether we like it or not, politics is defined as the art of the possible. Thus, if you choose to hitch your wagon to a party or candidate that is lucky to draw whole percentages and can not dream of double digits, you waste your effort and divide your own side into spatting factions

Unanimity is a double edged sword, eliminating the possibility of change and improvement for what's considered safe. Also it gives the competition a big leg up to fight the establishment machine that we have created. A certain amount of splitting is healthy, too much is unhealthy, and the balance is too far on the unanimity side right now.

167 posted on 01/23/2006 9:19:01 AM PST by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: mr_hammer

I'm not delighted with the Republicans in Congress either. And I haven't donated to the RNC since November 2004.

But does that mean I'm going to throw away my vote for some third party nutjob? Absolutely not.

Did you learn nothing from Perot?


168 posted on 01/23/2006 9:20:51 AM PST by Peach
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To: Peach
For all the talk about how Clinton was moderate and triangulated, he is also the person who hated and descimated the military, sold our most valuable national security secrets to enemy countries in exchange for cash, and tried to impose nationalized healthcare on the country.

True. Can you imagine what a true leftist like Kerry would have done?

169 posted on 01/23/2006 9:25:05 AM PST by MACVSOG68
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To: Peach
If Ross Perot hadn't had a hissy fit and gone on a huge ego trip, we'd never have had Clinton

And then we wouldn't have had the Republican revolution.

170 posted on 01/23/2006 9:25:36 AM PST by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: mr_hammer

Thank you mr-hammer, those are my sentiments exactly. I also sent the RNC a similar letter just a few minutes ago.
On their website they are bragging that this is their best ever fundraising year. I told them in light of that they would no longer need my help. They have indeed become the party of big business special interests (cheap illegal slave labor).


171 posted on 01/23/2006 9:25:43 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: Designer
How about the Republican nominating a conservative once in a while?

Republican nominees are elected by Republican voters, in most states anyway. Your beef is with Republican voters, not the "party" as a separate entity.

If enough Republicans voted to nominate real conservative candidates, the Republican candidates who would be nominated as a result would represent conservative positions. Since that is often not true, it must be assumed that most Republican voters are not themselves as conservative as we would like them to be. The only remedy for that situation that I can think of offhand is to better educate the average Republican voter on the virtues of conservatism and how to identify a real conservative candidate.

172 posted on 01/23/2006 9:28:31 AM PST by epow (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem, they shall prosper who love thee. Ps. I22:6)
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To: mr_hammer

I guess you disowned your parents when you didn't get your way also. Other than bitch what good have you contributed to the world lately.


173 posted on 01/23/2006 9:33:22 AM PST by ArkansasBushfan
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To: palmer

You'll have to remind me what Republicans were doing wrong in 1991 that we needed a revolution.


174 posted on 01/23/2006 9:36:26 AM PST by Peach
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To: rdb3

LOL

I see there are other trolls on this thread too...

too bad....

I wish I could be on here more to make more fun of certain elements on this thread but I have other (easily more important than this self pity party) things to do at the moment :)


175 posted on 01/23/2006 9:36:55 AM PST by MikefromOhio (The Pot is complaining about the Kettle's complexion....)
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To: MikeinIraq
I see there are other trolls on this thread too...

Threads like this always bring out the GOP hating kooks. Of course, most are already well known to begin with.

176 posted on 01/23/2006 9:38:53 AM PST by COEXERJ145 (Those Who Want to Impeach President Bush Are the Party of Treason.)
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To: Designer
Wrong here, also.

You haven't shown me to be wrong anywhere yet, leave alone "also". You were the one who said he was "kicked in the teeth" after the election. I will ask again, what has Bush done since the election of '04 that you consider kicking in your teeth? IOW, you knew exactly what you were getting when you voted for him in '04!

We must nominate someone ELECTABLE! Meaning; someone like another RINO.

What it means is that the presidential elections depend more and more on that 30 percent of swing voters who just have a moderate streak among their otherwise conservative principles and will simply not vote for the Roy Moore types any longer. It means that the demographics are changing and the Party would like not to lose out. It means that the Republican Party while still the party of conservatives, must be a big-tent party, or it will drift into the fringes of American politics.

Continuing to elect traditional conservatives to Congress makes more sense because they can impact legislation, assuming they are truly conservative.

177 posted on 01/23/2006 9:41:06 AM PST by MACVSOG68
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To: mr_hammer
Great post! I concur.

As Ronald Reagan so eloquented stated,

"Man is not free unless government is limited. There's a clear cause and effect here that is as neat and predictable as a law of physics: As government expands, liberty contracts. "

178 posted on 01/23/2006 9:41:22 AM PST by stockstrader
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To: mr_hammer

Mr. Hammer,

A copy of your concerns has been forwarded to the Office of Homeland Security.

Good luck trying to board an airplane.

Sincerely yours,
RNC

179 posted on 01/23/2006 9:44:40 AM PST by Freebird Forever (If they're truly public servants, why do they live in the mansions?)
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To: epow
Republican nominees are elected by Republican voters, in most states anyway. Your beef is with Republican voters, not the "party" as a separate entity.

Firstly; I would ask that you please go back and re-read my post, as you seem to have gotten some of it wrong.

Secondly; You're wrong!

Republican candidates are nominated by the most influential members of the party.

Then candidates are elected.

Furthermore, most voters are far too ignorant to know who to vote for.

180 posted on 01/23/2006 9:46:45 AM PST by Designer (Just a nit-pick'n and chagrin'n)
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