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U.S. accused of spying on those who disagree with Bush policies
Herald Today -- Brandenton.com, Florida ^ | 1/22/06 | WILLIAM E. GIBSON

Posted on 01/22/2006 12:43:16 PM PST by summer

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To: summer

Yes, Mohammedans are known to disagree with Bush policies.


41 posted on 01/22/2006 2:04:01 PM PST by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: summer

it's not 2008 yet, so I am guessing this is not election campaign talk. Or is it? Are they paranoid? What is the deal here???


no, bit it's 2006..midterm elections are 10mos away...the rats want the house so they can bring impeachment charges against Bush


42 posted on 01/22/2006 2:04:46 PM PST by mystery-ak
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To: summer

"Spying" on domestic terrorists has paid off big time. Recently in Flagstaff, AZ we've had the kiddie porn collecting Hitler-like "mastermind" of an arsonous ELF cell top himself in jail, plus one of his stooges out-on-bail, presumably after having ratted out a few former associates. One erstwhile ELF turns out to have been wearing a wire for a long time so there are a number of liberal pinks in Flagstaff and Prescott who are now spending their midnight hours mulling over the compromising remarks they spouted so bravely at cocktail parties. All in all, a good thing. Let them stew in their own bloodless weak vegan juices.


43 posted on 01/22/2006 2:11:45 PM PST by NaughtiusMaximus (DO NOT read to the end of this tagline . . . Oh, $#@%^, there you went and did it.)
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To: summer

The reason they have no new ideas is because they're still explaining what LBJ meant by the "Great Society."


44 posted on 01/22/2006 2:15:58 PM PST by Lochlainnach
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To: summer

"But the reason I ask is because these Dem sites are really hitting hysterical notes lately, at a fevor pitch, claiming the entire US of A is basically ending, with GW spying on them. It's not 2008 yet, so I am guessing this is not election campaign talk. Or is it? Are they paranoid? What is the deal here???"

Oh, the Democrats are showing more than a healthy paranoia (acute awareness) - they're suffering from a *grand delusion syndrome*. Like communist Harry Belafonte, who is compelled by a gripping perception of becoming irrelevant and powerless, likens U S security measures to a New Gestapo takeover. Of course, Belafonte speaks about this stuff while traveling South America where all the old Nazis SS and Gestapo members, and Third Reich bureaucrats fled, bred and live. South America is VIBRANT with old Nazis!


45 posted on 01/22/2006 2:35:24 PM PST by purpleland (Elegy 9/11/01 Vigilance and Valor! Socialism is the Opiate of Academia)
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To: summer

Anti-administration = anti-American = pro terrorism. If they don't want to be under survelance they should shut up.


46 posted on 01/22/2006 2:39:53 PM PST by balch3
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To: listenhillary

Threats against the military do get investigated.

Good. They should be monitored.

Just who is this group accusing? The Bush administration is rather vague. I'm sure Karl Rove doesn't have time to go through their trash!!


47 posted on 01/22/2006 2:41:39 PM PST by jch10
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To: NaughtiusMaximus
I read about that case and you're right. But I think not everyone who peacefully protests is exactly like the people you mentioned, though there are probably more people out there like the ones you mentioned.

I guess we are just in a period now where there will always be accusations from the side out of power that the other side is abusing its power in this wat on terror. And I do think it is important to preserve our rights as free citizens of this great country, but I also believe those rights do not include engaging in behavior reminiscent of say, Jane Fonda duering Vietname, or someone like that.

I think there is more attention being paid now to people who may, by design or by ignorance, be communicating with those who would do us harm, and, there has to be that. I read Christopher Hitchens' recent posts on a Dem site but I think he forgot that while his rights are certainly important, things are different now because of this different war we are fighting. And, it is different. There is no getting around that, no matter how hysterical some Dem sites get over these issues.
48 posted on 01/22/2006 3:12:01 PM PST by summer
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To: NaughtiusMaximus

wat = war, and other typos you can figure out. Sorry!


49 posted on 01/22/2006 3:13:00 PM PST by summer
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To: summer
I have just one thing to say about this article:

800+ FBI files in her bedroom and the perp has still to do any jail time...

50 posted on 01/22/2006 3:13:40 PM PST by Publius6961 (The IQ of California voters is about 420........... .............cumulatively)
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To: Publius6961

Yes, well, I think you have a good question there in light of such circumstances, though I am not privvy to any such facts!


51 posted on 01/22/2006 3:17:55 PM PST by summer
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To: Bahbah

And the Quaker "church" has really descended into this. It's little better than the UU church as far as beliefs. With their professed pacifism, they end up being little more than a vessel for "peace" protests.


52 posted on 01/22/2006 3:23:32 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: listenhillary

Where did you find this link, and who edited the report?


53 posted on 01/22/2006 3:34:41 PM PST by huck von finn
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To: TheCrusader; KDD

I thought you might be interested in this thread.


54 posted on 01/22/2006 7:54:04 PM PST by summer
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To: Reactionary

"Sure. Some nutbag leftist group says they've been "infiltrated and spied upon." The proof? They "know" that meeting lists have disappeared."

And even if somehow this group has been targeted it might be under a warrant from the FISA courts - that would be secret anyway.


55 posted on 01/22/2006 7:55:56 PM PST by gondramB (Democracy: two wolves and a lamb voting on lunch. Liberty: a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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>>>,i>Aren't they confusing him with Clintoon, who used the IRS against political opponents.<<<

and 800 FBI files!

56 posted on 01/22/2006 7:57:48 PM PST by HardStarboard
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To: HardStarboard

That's what it's going to be like, one thing or the other from whichever political party depending on whose views you're reading. However, I must say I was surprised to see Dem activists telling their Dem leaders to walk out during GW's upcoming State of the Union address.


57 posted on 01/22/2006 8:03:57 PM PST by summer
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To: huck von finn

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10454316/


58 posted on 01/23/2006 3:26:35 AM PST by listenhillary ("Mainstream media" is creating it's own reality~everything sucks)
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To: summer
The former head of NSA is on CSPAN now and was asked this question.

He indicated clearly that NSA conducts signal intelligence on specific AQ related targets and isn't digging through trash or spying on left-wing groups in a massive intelligence effort.

He specifically said that NSA only spys on people "who want to kill Americans".

If some spooks are spying on these guys you can be sure it isn't NSA.

Maybe it is the greys.

;-)
59 posted on 01/23/2006 1:02:53 PM PST by cgbg (MSM and Democratic treason--fifty years and counting...)
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To: summer

Check out this other thread which contains the language of the Espionage Act of 1917. I think reading that will shed LOTS of light on this.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1563497/posts?page=1


60 posted on 01/23/2006 3:23:43 PM PST by KJC1
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