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Academic underachievers (Boys, discipline, dropouts, grades, medications, etc.)
The Washington Times ^ | January 22, 2006 | Joyce Howard Price

Posted on 01/21/2006 11:25:45 PM PST by neverdem

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To: neverdem

I thought this was about the democrats base until I saw the caption to the right LOL


21 posted on 01/22/2006 4:21:04 AM PST by spikeytx86
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To: sagar
You are a nerd, are you?
22 posted on 01/22/2006 4:22:32 AM PST by Ninian Dryhope ("Bush lied, people dyed. Their fingers." The inestimable Mark Steyn)
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To: OpusatFR

The teacher was stupid for saying that remark, but she probably meant it as a general remark. It's not like anybody ever says those. At least in my school, in my class, the girls tend to be a little better behaved in the younger grades, and actually, that's probably true in general for younger-aged children (but I CAN'T make a general statement--I wasn't even a private). Curiously, some of the teachers in grades 4-6 PREFER some boys because they hold grudges like some girls do and play together better.


23 posted on 01/22/2006 4:24:24 AM PST by moog
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To: Ninian Dryhope

I'm a dum-dum, does that count?


24 posted on 01/22/2006 4:25:32 AM PST by moog
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To: msnimje; pookie18
Lukovich is an a-hole.

Not quite as bad as that putrescent turd Ted Rall.

Then again, that's not saying much.

Now Mike Ramirez is gone.

Ed. cartooning is teh suck.

Meh.

25 posted on 01/22/2006 4:50:11 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("Liberals aren't neighborhood people." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan)
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To: neverdem

There are those who think we are all weird here, but in these here parts, people of my faith send their boys to all male high schools and their girls to all girls high schools and most of us think that should start in 6th grade. The boys don't fall behind the girls when they are not in the same classroom.

There is plenty of socializing - that's why God invented football games, basketball games and dances.


26 posted on 01/22/2006 5:08:02 AM PST by Desdemona (Music Librarian and provider of cucumber sandwiches, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary. Hats required.)
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To: Desdemona

Interesting. Korea has floated between those off and on.


27 posted on 01/22/2006 5:10:12 AM PST by moog
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To: moog

At the grade school I attended we even had separate playgrounds, mostly so the boys could get the energy out at recess and not hurt the girls in the process.


28 posted on 01/22/2006 5:12:21 AM PST by Desdemona (Music Librarian and provider of cucumber sandwiches, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary. Hats required.)
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To: Desdemona

Wow, might be an idea worth exploring. One thing I'm seeing in older grades (at least in some circumstances here) is that that some girls are becoming more active. Some you can hardly tell from the boys.

One thing is the rule in my class--boys are boys and girls are girls. If two boys start messing around with each other, sometimes I'll say, "Quit dancing." And they stop right away. If a boy starts pulling his shirt over his knees while sitting (can't stand that), I'll say, "Don't wear a dress in here." It works too. Maybe it's not PC, but then no one ever accused me of being such.


29 posted on 01/22/2006 5:20:13 AM PST by moog
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To: FOG724

"From what I have run into in the school system, boys are evil and girls are everything. The deck really is stacked against boys."

I agree with that statement 100%. My son is thirty two now though even when he was is school this was starting to go on. He though was lucky and had lady teachers that still understood little boys and little girls. There were some even back then that were starting this trend that leaned toward the little girls. Don't think that I don't think that there aren't some great lady teachers today, though they are few and far between. I'm glad Mrs. Bush has taken this stand. I believe that back when she was in the schools, I believe as a libarian; she was one that understood little boys. The great lady teachers back then weren't the old Sarge that some of us met later on, though they had some traits that accomplished the same thing that Sarge did.


30 posted on 01/22/2006 5:28:46 AM PST by JOE43270 (JOE43270, God Bless America and All Who Have and Will Defend Her.)
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To: Cacique
The thing is is that it doesn't take a village, it takes parents. Discipline is important for kids. Spending time with your kids is important. My son is 5 and I have to remind myself that if I am going to the store for milk or to a friends house, bring him. I try to take him with me wherever I go just so he can have a male influence around as much as possible. If you sit back and watch how women in your family and extended treat little boys it amazing. I have had otherwise nice women insult or make backhanded remarks to my son and not even realize they are doing it. I think Fathers must take an active role in discipline and show them how to live like a man. Their female teacher can't do it.
31 posted on 01/22/2006 5:33:50 AM PST by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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To: JOE43270

There are still many great lady teachers today. And I think Mrs. Bush is onto something too (I do respect here a TON). I myself, would like to see MORE male teachers, especially "old" military guys. Heck, I would love it if somehow military people could become teachers easier.

There are many problems not mentioned such as the absence of a father in many households (and lack of an involved one in others), the divorce rate, priorities, lack of perception of male "role models" (though I think we have many in the form of soldiers and such), and so on and so on.

One of my big things this year is going to be to thank as many parents as I can for being great parents. I have done that several times to the parents of my students.


32 posted on 01/22/2006 5:35:53 AM PST by moog
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To: normy

I think you are probably a WONDERFUL father and I agree with you 100%.


33 posted on 01/22/2006 5:37:08 AM PST by moog
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To: JOE43270

Those teachers who have raised little boys or were around them growing up seem to generally understand them here.
The ones here who haven't had the background often do not.


34 posted on 01/22/2006 5:38:53 AM PST by moog
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To: JOE43270
Read this and understand.
35 posted on 01/22/2006 5:44:49 AM PST by katya8
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To: OpusatFR

Sounds like our third grade teacher. All kids flourish in our first grade as well. Third grade state wide tests begin and I think there is some connection.


36 posted on 01/22/2006 5:47:37 AM PST by outinyellowdogcountry
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To: outinyellowdogcountry

Never heard something like that before, but maybe you are onto something. Also around that time, is when you do see the kids becoming more self-aware and the differences developing.


37 posted on 01/22/2006 5:49:50 AM PST by moog
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To: moog
Close enough for government work.
38 posted on 01/22/2006 5:51:11 AM PST by Ninian Dryhope ("Bush lied, people dyed. Their fingers." The inestimable Mark Steyn)
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To: Ninian Dryhope

Now that was an "intelligent" response. Thanks. You should make more like those. But, alas, it is true in my case.


39 posted on 01/22/2006 5:55:07 AM PST by moog
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To: kjo

>I am a public high school teacher. I can attest first hand that boys are in a lot of trouble, dropping out, not attending college, headed for prison. White males are the most forgetten group. Many are headed nowhere.<

An old school administrator in my area used to push, and push hard for good high school vocational training. Contrary to what many people think, not everyone is cut out for college, and society desperately needs skilled blue collar workers. Plumbers, electricians, welders and auto mechanics, to name a few, are vital to society.

Perhaps, communities should look at providing technical training centers for their students.


40 posted on 01/22/2006 5:56:19 AM PST by Darnright (Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.)
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