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Illinois Company refuses to cover motorcycle-related injuries (Health Insurance Discrimination!)
American Motorcyclist ^ | February 2006 | Bill Kresnak

Posted on 01/21/2006 6:11:19 PM PST by BlueOneGolf

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To: fallujah-nuker; Larry Lucido
As a non-smoker who has never driven a motorcycle I really don't have a dog in the fight, but imagined were some vegan to buy the company you work for.

Just wait until Larry's boss decides that it's too "risky" to employ people who have firearms in their home.
Then he'll be scratching his head and asking "Doh... what happened?"

41 posted on 01/21/2006 6:47:47 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: fallujah-nuker

I stand corrected. It's not life insurance, it's motorcycle related injuries under their health insurance.

Again, very easily remedied. Increase your automotive policy limits as necessary.


42 posted on 01/21/2006 6:48:30 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Willie Green
Just wait until Larry's boss decides that it's too "risky" to employ people who have firearms in their home

Oooops... "employ" should be "insure"
but it still gets the basic idea across.

43 posted on 01/21/2006 6:49:30 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green; fallujah-nuker
that it's too "risky" to employ

Insure, not employ. Gotta read the article and keep your terms straight, Willie. Hey, I corrected my own dyslexia-related boner in #42.

44 posted on 01/21/2006 6:50:10 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Willie Green

LOL! Gotta give you credit there, buddy!


45 posted on 01/21/2006 6:50:41 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Fast Ed97
Fast Ed97 wrote: "Is this a joke. You are actually advocating motorcycle riders should be a "protected class.

Regardless of bunging jumping and sky-diving I am 99.9 percent sure that the decision resulted in substantial premium savings and is not the result of bigotry against motorcycle riders. I would consider owning a motorcycle in addition to automobiles to be a luxury that is an option for those with a good amount of disposable income. Who should bear the costs of the higher premiums? The lower wage workers who cannot afford motorcycle riding?"

Luxury? Actually my motorcycle was bought used for $1800 and I use it to commute back and forth to work. It's my primary form af transportation 9 months out of the year. And at 50MPG you can't beat it at todays gas prices! Riders absolutely SHOULD NOT be what you call "a protected class". But if the State views motorcycles equivalent to four-wheeled vehicles in terms af licensing, registering, mandatory insurance and other regulatory aspects then what the company is doing is discriminatory.

Say a worker drives to work in his car and is injured in a crash, then it's no problem to pay his benefits, but if he's struck while ridiing his motorcycle to work then he's screwed. Same instance, only in the second situation he's on two wheels not four. The State says he's operating a "motor vehicle" in either case so yeah there is something wrong with the company's decision.

46 posted on 01/21/2006 6:53:07 PM PST by BlueOneGolf (I ride and I vote. Join me in the American Motorcyclist Association today.)
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To: Larry Lucido
I stand corrected. It's not life insurance, it's motorcycle related injuries under their health insurance.

It's BOTH, Larry. Employee health insurance AND life insurance.

47 posted on 01/21/2006 6:53:08 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Petronski

I've always found it quite difficult to scuba-dive on a motorcycle.


48 posted on 01/21/2006 6:55:10 PM PST by Xenalyte (Can you count, suckas? I say the future is ours . . . if you can count.)
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To: BlueOneGolf

Ummm.... I thought motorcycle-related injuries (just as automobile) were generally covered by the medical payment part of your insurance on said vehicle/bike.

Now, I could be wrong....

Either way, although this would appear to be unfair, it most certainly IS fair for those who pay higer premiums due to the costs of motorcycle injuries.

I believe some health insurance companies disallow claims resulting from "high-risk" "extreme sports" such as bungee jumping.


49 posted on 01/21/2006 6:55:29 PM PST by TheBattman (Islam (and liberalism)- the cult of Satan and a Cancer on Society)
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To: Squawk 8888
Oh the irony- I'm pretty sure that riding a motorcycle is safer than working in a mine.

Pretty sure are you? Think the insurance company actuarials have figured this out already? I agree with the previous poster. Let the private companies chose who they want to insure.
50 posted on 01/21/2006 6:57:03 PM PST by cowtowney
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To: Squawk 8888

If somebody gets thrown from a horse everyone feels sorry. If someone gets in an accident on a motorcycle (saving gas) people say it serves them right. We're screwn.


51 posted on 01/21/2006 6:57:36 PM PST by Flavius Josephus (If I want your opinion I'll give it to you.)
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To: Larry Lucido
Hey, I corrected my own dyslexia-related boner in #42.

Do you think if I somehow contracted dyslexia that it would compensate for these crappy bifocals I have?

Sheeeesh... it's been a long day and I gotta be in good shape to watch football tomorrow.

G'night, Larry!

52 posted on 01/21/2006 6:58:37 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green

Night, Willie!


53 posted on 01/21/2006 6:59:39 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Xenalyte
I've always found it quite difficult to scuba-dive on a motorcycle.

Why? Do you keep flooding the bike?
54 posted on 01/21/2006 6:59:43 PM PST by RetiredSWO
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To: BlueOneGolf

I'm with you there- I bought a Yamaha Vino 125 scooter and the cost of ownership is less than commuting by public transit. As a bonus, this winter has been so mild that I've had it out at least twice a week since November.


55 posted on 01/21/2006 7:00:08 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (We Acadians have nothing to do with Québec)
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To: RetiredSWO

That post came with its own rim shot!


56 posted on 01/21/2006 7:00:14 PM PST by Xenalyte (Can you count, suckas? I say the future is ours . . . if you can count.)
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To: dirtboy

You are really right. We only got major medical from my Dad's company when I was a kid. Now you have to use insurance for everything and it's all out of kilter.


57 posted on 01/21/2006 7:00:17 PM PST by Flavius Josephus (If I want your opinion I'll give it to you.)
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To: Larry Lucido; Willie Green

OK..........I've read the article and all the ensuing comments........and this is a half full/half empty kind of thing.

The difference here is that this company is not going to pay claims for certain types of injuries, whereas Miracle-Gro and Weyco are firing employees, as opposed to just not paying certain claims. Of course if American Coal starts telling employees they can not ride motorcycles on their own time, it will fall into the same category.

The big difference in these cases is that employees are not being fired, and if they do not have company provided insurance it doesn't matter. That is not the case for Weyco and Miracle-Gro. One of the fired employees was not on the company incurance plan.

I don't like it.......but I don't want the government coming in and telling the company it can't do it.


58 posted on 01/21/2006 7:01:30 PM PST by Gabz
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To: Petronski
This is the weird part:

You’d still be covered if you did almost anything else: bungee jumping, skydiving, scuba diving, skiing. Just not on your motorcycle. 16 posted on 01/21/2006 8:21:16 PM CST by Petronski

Not wierd - just tells me that they haven't had any medical insurance claims resulting from those other activities. It doesn't take many motorcycle injuries to add up to a very large sum of money.

I would imagine that a significant number of claims/large payouts for injuries related to those other listed activities would quickly result in future exclusions for those as well.

59 posted on 01/21/2006 7:01:45 PM PST by TheBattman (Islam (and liberalism)- the cult of Satan and a Cancer on Society)
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To: Xenalyte
I've always found it quite difficult to scuba-dive on a motorcycle.

Nonsense. The diving part is easy.

60 posted on 01/21/2006 7:02:04 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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