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President or VP in 2008? An Interview with Senator George Allen
opinioneditorials.com ^ | January 8, 2006 | Judson Cox

Posted on 01/21/2006 12:11:30 PM PST by redgirlinabluestate

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To: redgirlinabluestate
And then lose to Hillary?

Well, you can't sweep 50 states anymore.

Hillary is going to win a small handfull of states, nothing can stop that.

But when she gets blown out coast to coast, who is going to care?

81 posted on 01/21/2006 1:33:46 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Howlin

How do they compare as a percentage of GDP? Our federal budget is higher than it's ever been.


82 posted on 01/21/2006 1:33:56 PM PST by RockinRight (Hey RNC-the GOP is the party of Reagan, not FDR!)
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To: oceanview

Very good observation. Even when people care about an issue, they often get only a surface understanding of it. Here in Virginia several years ago, we elected a governor who promised to do away with the hated automobile property tax, which at that time was due every year in December.

He was elected in November, and by the end of the year, the state was reporting a lot of people who were being pinged on overdue payments were responding, "Gilmore was elected, so we don't have to pay it", totally missing the fact that the legislature hadn't even MET to consider the proposal yet! (rolling eyes)

Never underestimate the electorate. :-\


83 posted on 01/21/2006 1:34:18 PM PST by linda_22003
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To: Corin Stormhands

I agree; he's very likeable and when I've heard him on the radio he sounds great and I did not find him to be boring. Plus he has connections to California, where his father George Allen Sr., coached the Los Angeles Rams for several years, IIRC. He might even be able to win in CA or at least make the Dems spend a lot of time and money defending that state.


84 posted on 01/21/2006 1:34:50 PM PST by carl in alaska (Kerry did not invent treason, but he invented the use of treason as a democrat political strategy.)
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To: RockinRight
Personally I think Ohio's own Ken Blackwell would make an excellent President. Black Republican (which always pisses off Dems), very Reaganesque in his views, likeable, electable.

Blackwell has alot of the Reagan qualities, but I'd like to seem him build up a record of governance first to make sure he matches what he says.

I saw what happened with the golden boy in colorado.

85 posted on 01/21/2006 1:35:11 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: linda_22003

Well, I slightly disagree with that. I consider those peripheral issues important and one where conservatives can build a consensus.

Partial birth abortion is something that turns most people (of both major political flavors) off and should be banned, and I think a solid consensus can be built around that. Parental notification of minors seeking abortions likewise (despite its stunning loss in California) is a good consensus issue. Federal funding for abortions is another. Those are the pro life issues in 2006 that a conservative consensus can be reached.

Whether abortion should be legal or not, sad to say, is not the 2006 issue among most people. So in that way, I think they are issues conservatives, pro lifers, and others can reach agreement on.


86 posted on 01/21/2006 1:35:34 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: HitmanNY
The bad news is if it's Warner (as I suspect it will end up being), who isn't exactly colorful but looks better in comparison to Allen.

Don't believe all the hype about Mark Warner. His star will fade quickly enough. He knew he'd never beat Allen in a head to head contest. That's why he's not running for Senator this year.

Warner has been all over the spotlight for "saving" the state's economy, which was never really ailing to begin with. His successor is going to screw that up in a matter of days.

87 posted on 01/21/2006 1:36:06 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (My memory's not as sharp as it used to be. Also, my memory's not as sharp as it used to be.)
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To: Gipper08

Nope, it isn't happening.


88 posted on 01/21/2006 1:36:07 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: carl in alaska

No argument from me. That being said, I don't think Hillywill be the nominee. Wait and see.


89 posted on 01/21/2006 1:37:08 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: HitmanNY

I would like to think you're right about building a consensus, but even here on FR you can see the impatience - "Alito's going to the Court, and Roe's going DOWN!" It's been 33 years and people don't understand why they are not getting results.


90 posted on 01/21/2006 1:37:21 PM PST by linda_22003
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To: Corin Stormhands

A dull, but likeable, guy.


91 posted on 01/21/2006 1:37:48 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: Howlin

what's his position on first trimester abortions for adult women? that's an issue he doesn't vote on as a senator, but if pressed on his opinion on that during a presidential campaign, a few google searches will show what his position is (was). I am not personally flipping out over it, but alot of pro-lifers I suspect will not like the answer.

paragraphs 10 & 11, as an example, here:

http://www.roanoke.com/columnists/lynch/wb/xp-13535


92 posted on 01/21/2006 1:38:56 PM PST by oceanview
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To: RockinRight

Well, I looked for it and can't find it; I read it on here somewhere in the last few weeks; basically, Reagan doubled government spending and Bush is less than a quarter, off the top of my head.


93 posted on 01/21/2006 1:40:19 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Sonny M

True enough. Bill Owens turned out to be a dissapointment!


94 posted on 01/21/2006 1:40:52 PM PST by RockinRight (Hey RNC-the GOP is the party of Reagan, not FDR!)
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To: linda_22003

I am right about the consensus issues - those are the ones that a conservative consensus can be built upon, the ones I mentioned.

There is no consensus to outright outlaw first trimester abortions in 2006. That was my point: that issue isn't going anywhere, but the true conservative issues that can be developed are the ones I mentioned, and others like it.

To the extent that some pro lifers can't cope with that, too bad. Similarly, to the extent that the 'abortions r us' crowd can't cope with that, too bad.


95 posted on 01/21/2006 1:41:05 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: Sonny M

What do you think of Steele from Maryland?


96 posted on 01/21/2006 1:41:19 PM PST by Howlin
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To: HitmanNY

It certainly is.All of those groups I spoke of all have Pence as their First or in one case second choice.Name ID??????? That is what the primaries are for! None of the other "conservatives" in the race are going to run away with it(who is above 5% in New Hampshire?) any time soon BECAUSE they can't get the endorsement of the groups I mentioned.Pence is the only guy who can unite the right wing interest groups.He has 8 months to build name ID and stature.Considering he is in the news 4x as much as Allen I would say he is on his way.


97 posted on 01/21/2006 1:41:28 PM PST by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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To: Gipper08

How about a friendly bet: $10 says that Pence won't be campaigning for himself one month into the GOP primaries?


98 posted on 01/21/2006 1:42:33 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: Gipper08

Do you think he's gonna end up with a leadership post in the House? People were talking about him as Majority Whip.


99 posted on 01/21/2006 1:43:09 PM PST by RockinRight (Hey RNC-the GOP is the party of Reagan, not FDR!)
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To: HitmanNY

YOu mean one month after Iowa?


100 posted on 01/21/2006 1:43:32 PM PST by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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