Posted on 01/21/2006 12:11:30 PM PST by redgirlinabluestate
I don't even think he will make it that far, though it won't be any fault of his own.
The circumstances have changed.
In 2000, he was the moderate, running against all the conservatives.
Forbes, Bush, etc.
In 2008, he is going to be one of many big name moderates, Rudy is going to run, Romney is going to run, Pataki (despite being booed in Iowa and New Hampshire during some fundraising tours) is going to run, etc.
With all these moderates competiting against each other, they'll split the vote.
Leaving anyone who is conservative, with a good shot to rally the conservative vote, state by state.....and in a GOP primary, getting the conservative vote gets you a lock.
Reagan had the right ideas (eliminate Dept. of Education, cut taxes, etc) and did some good things (he was the only President to actually CUT spending in some areas) but in practice, wasn't as effective as he, or we, would have liked.
Even the July, 1975 Reason magazine interview suggested this, that his heart, and mind were conservative, even libertarian, but in practice, he did what he could practically do.
"We all better chip in and get Allen a personality before the primaries."
and some conservative convictions that will shrink Government
Cheney has no intention of stepping down, his mood is now hostile to the question and he gets angry talking about it.
That said, Rice is already making plans for after 2008, she has no intention of running for any office.....ever.
Right now she just laughs are the whole president talk, in a few months she is going to start going "jeb bush" style on press folks who ask her.
I agree. But republicans better start explaining that the goal in overturning Roe is to return abortion to the states - overturning Roe will not outlaw abortion across the US. alot of folks don't understand that. and I worry that if we have a republican candidate who is honest about that, the pro-lifers will refuse to accept it.
Personally I think Ohio's own Ken Blackwell would make an excellent President. Black Republican (which always pisses off Dems), very Reaganesque in his views, likeable, electable.
But let us have him as Governor for a couple years at least!
Condi as VP 'darlin... unless she takes over VP if Cheney(I hope) steps down by the end of 2006.
Sort of like George Bush, huh?
That's why the abortion issue is so tough. Lots of people I know (even though abortion is abhorrent to them), would just as soon drop the issue because it will NEVER BE RESOLVED in our lifetimes. It's sick that it's the case, but I do think it's true.
It is true. And it's a difficult area for compromise, since over 90% of abortions take place in the first trimester. All the hand-wringing is over "scissors in the back of the head" but that's very much the exception, and nothing much would change if those were banned.
Sort of. However, Bush didn't HAVE to push that Medicare crap down the throats of the GOP. Congressional Republicans would not have had him do that. He also could have passed more tax cuts and more spending cuts had he wanted to.
I'm kind of the opposite on school vouchers, if he didn't support them, I would refuse to support him, or any other canidate unless they back vouchers.
That said, his "guest reform" package looks really small, and limited to only legal immigrants, no amnesty, and illegals need not apply.
On the upside, scary as it may sound, he seems to have the hardest position on illegal immigrants then anyone who may run against him.
No one else is even remotely close, except for the possibility Tancredo may run, and he would get smoked anyway.
Pence certainly on the 08 radar for Rush Limbaugh,NTU,Eagle Forum,Family research Council,Club for Growth,NFRA,ACU etc,etc.That is what counts.3 years out that is all he needs,we will see what the next 6 months bring.
The tickets I would like to see are Allen/Jeb or Rudy G/Jeb. I know, I know, Rudy is not a social conservative but he too can beat Hillary soundly with his calm, professional demeanor and strong anti-terror position. Jeb should run for VP as a Cheney type of strong, involved VP and then run for POTUS in 2016. I think he's about 50 now so he would be 61 in 2016, but then, heck, Reagan was 67 when he was first elected.
George Allen on Abortion # Voted YES on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime. (Mar 2004) # Voted YES on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life. (Mar 2003) # Rated 0% by NARAL, indicating a pro-life voting record. (Dec 2003)
And then lose to Hillary?
Oh give me a break. I've known George Allen for over 20 years. Wife and I have both worked for him.
He is one of the most genuinely likeable politicians out there.
I agree 100%.
I actually like his personality.
When I see him in interviews or on TV, he comes across as a good, decent family man with alot of optimism and a strong set of beliefs.
He also, thankfully, doesn't act like a firebreathing hell fire and brimstone type of conservative which seems over the top to to many voters.
Coming across and warm, folksy, and personable works, it helped Bush win, hell it even worked for his father.
Allen reminds of a conservative version of John Edwards, unfortunatly that comes with some of the same downsides too.
Get back to me when Bush's spending gets anywhere near Reagan's.
And I love Reagan!
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