Our ears once breathed [evolution of ears]

Nature Magazine ^ | 18 January 2006 | Helen Pearson

[crghill]

Oh ouch, that really hurt. You're opinion meant so much to me too!

[crghill]

Your!

[crghill]

The best argument that there is a GOD - and it often moved me deeply - is this one that he proves from generation of species: a cow always bears a cow, a horse a horse, etc. No goldfinch produces a siskin. Therefore it is necessary to conclude that there is something that directs everything thus. ---Martin Luther (350 yrs. before Darwin).

[wolfcreek]

Try People magazine?

[dread78645]

Therefore it is necessary to conclude that there is something that directs everything thus.

---Martin Luther (350 yrs. before Darwin).

Ah yes. That eminent scientist Martin Luther.
Didn't he discover that the Earth revolved around the Sun? No?

Pity.

[Dimensio]

Why are you continuing to make the dishonest claim that evolution is somehow equivalent to atheism? Does it not bother you that you are lying?

[wolfcreek]

we are the special product of a God who created us in His Own Image, and breathed life into us?

What if God looks like a Gorilla? That would definately throw a 'Monkey' wrench into these discussions, wouldn't it?

[mlc9852]

I never read (or look at the pictures) People. National Inquirer maybe...

[bobdsmith]

The best argument that there is a GOD - and it often moved me deeply - is this one that he proves from generation of species: a cow always bears a cow, a horse a horse, etc. No goldfinch produces a siskin. Therefore it is necessary to conclude that there is something that directs everything thus

That's the best argument that there is a God?

[Oztrich Boy]

OK I'm calling this as a pious fraud. It's a fake quotation that a Creationist made up.

Produce some evidence that statement was made the doesn't trace back to David Menton

Knock yourself out

[GOPPachyderm]

My Buick Regal evolved into a Ford Truck F150. I don't know how it happened, but there are many similarities. They both have engines that work on the same principles, both have four wheels and steering wheels, so it must be true.

[Dimensio]

Your truck is an imperfect self-replicator? Or are you just making an inane and totally invalid analgy in abscence of any real arguments?

[wolfcreek]

It was a funny,PEOPLE, you know? Those are the pics you requested. That all came from an article I read in Playboy.

[phantomworker]

What exactly is your point?

[potlatch]

Hey, you've got your two center lines for a limerick!!

Opra won't approve of that 'loopy' business, lol.

[Virginia-American]

The idea that the earth was older than 6-10 thousand years starting taking shape in the later 1700's and early 1800's. Before that time, it was assumed that that the Earth was 6-10 thousand years old

A sligh quibble. This was so only in Christian (and, AFAIK, Muslim) countries. The Hindus believe in a **much** older universe than science does.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

Well, yeah, they believed in an oscillating universe come to think of it. But I was talking about countries whose religions were based on the Bible. I was arguing against the contention that idea of a young earth arose about the same time that Darwin came onto the scene. That is of course the opposite of what happened.

[Virginia-American]

You're quite right, I just mentioned the Hindus to emphasize the Biblical/Koranic basis for the young Earth hypothesis.

There are radical Hindus who reject the ToE because it conflicts with reincarnation, (and also reject radiometric dating because it gives an answer that's too young) whereas others claim that the Hindus understood it millenia before Darwin. (As near as I can tell, the "undirected" aspect gives them all trouble)

[GOPPachyderm]

That is quite a leap to imagine that a fossil fish means that we once breathed through our ears. It is as absurd as concluding that my Buick evolved into a Ford truck because there are some similarities.

[Mamzelle]

I made no claim as to the age of the earth--I observed that cosmologists just add ages to our age whenever they are short of real knowledge--I think it's a copout, a pretense of knowing what has to be speculative. And that is the difference between a scientist who develops medicines and the scientist who tries to figure out the history of the universe--you know when the drug is bad. You don't know when the cosmologist is wrong--nor do we really care--his speculations just fade from view as time and space recede.

But, as you bring up the subject--has time always and behaved the same? That is, a billion years ago--was a day still 24 hours? Our notions of time are like our notions of speed--dependent on a paradigm.