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Cheap Simulators Threaten U.S. Air Superiority
StrategyPage ^ | Jan 17, 2006

Posted on 01/17/2006 3:56:44 PM PST by spetznaz

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Hmmmm .....for one I doubt that any amount of training can help a Chinese pilot in, say a JF17, face off against a USAF pilot in a Raptor. All that will result from such a matchup is a competent Chinese pilot getting shot down (as opposed to an incompetent one).

With that said, this development will improve the skillsets of their pilots. However improved skills or not they should not think themselves able to go kiss-kiss with a Raptor.

1 posted on 01/17/2006 3:56:44 PM PST by spetznaz
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"While a hundred hours a year in a simulator isn’t a complete replacement for actual air time, it’s close enough if the training scenarios are well thought out. And another 40-50 hours of actual air time gives you a competent pilot. Add another few hundred hours using commercial (game store bought) flight simulators (especially when played in groups via a LAN), and you have some deadly pilots."

Nonsense.

2 posted on 01/17/2006 3:59:16 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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Waste of words this is....

You can't fight what you can't see: RAPTORS

Enough Said.


3 posted on 01/17/2006 3:59:26 PM PST by The_Republican
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Strategy Page really seems to be going off the deep end lately with some of their predictions.
4 posted on 01/17/2006 4:00:09 PM PST by COEXERJ145 (Those Who Want to Impeach President Bush Are the Party of Treason.)
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BTTT


5 posted on 01/17/2006 4:00:20 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Tagline Repair Service. Let us fix those broken Taglines. Inquire within(Presented by TagLines R US))
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"Hmmmm .....for one I doubt that any amount of training can help a Chinese pilot in, say a JF17, face off against a USAF pilot in a Raptor. All that will result from such a matchup is a competent Chinese pilot getting shot down (as opposed to an incompetent one)."

Provided we deploy Raptors in sufficient numbers that will be true.

If Hillary or some other Dem gets into the Presidency, it won't.

6 posted on 01/17/2006 4:00:36 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: billorites

You are right. AS a retired AF pilot I can sau this is baloney!


7 posted on 01/17/2006 4:01:07 PM PST by Laserman
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The biggest threat to American air superiority is not Russia selling high performance combat aircraft to countries like China, but the development of really inexpensive flight simulators.

Aw come on...are you series???

8 posted on 01/17/2006 4:01:47 PM PST by evad
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Complete nonsense. How many G's does a flight-sim pull?


9 posted on 01/17/2006 4:01:53 PM PST by Hypervigilant (Crap. Not feeling "Pithy".)
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I work in the defense simulator community myself. This is complete B.S.

Cheap machines is one thing. Software that works well for it is completely something else.

In addition, it works both ways. Cheap simulators mean that much more training time for our guys as well.


10 posted on 01/17/2006 4:03:43 PM PST by Netheron
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An ejection simulator will likely prove more useful.


11 posted on 01/17/2006 4:04:31 PM PST by dighton
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one?


12 posted on 01/17/2006 4:04:53 PM PST by jaydubya2
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Pilots are so 20th century anyway. UAVs are the future.


13 posted on 01/17/2006 4:05:43 PM PST by somniferum
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Waste of words this is....

Funny.

14 posted on 01/17/2006 4:06:53 PM PST by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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Microsoft Combat Flight Simulator is absolutely the coolest game ever.

CFS is not a substitute for actual flight training
15 posted on 01/17/2006 4:07:18 PM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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As you know, there are massive fidelity issues with PC based trainers.


16 posted on 01/17/2006 4:08:54 PM PST by Wristpin ("The Yankees have decided to buy every player in Baseball....")
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Complete nonsense. How many G's does a flight-sim pull?


17 posted on 01/17/2006 4:09:30 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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We used to have an advantage both in technology and in training. Now it seems like the advantage in the training has decreased tremendously. There is no guarantee that the advantage in technology will continue to be there. We didn't beat the Soviets because we had better engineers. We beat them because we had a better economy. The Chinese economy seems to be doing quite well.


18 posted on 01/17/2006 4:09:42 PM PST by winner3000
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Even grossly outnumbered, a USAF Raptor has an overwhelming advantage over anything else that will be built by anyone for decades. I've read that a lone F-22 can routinely win a mock air combat mission against six USAF F-15s. The problem is that they're very expensive, and Congress keeps buying fewer of them (making the per-unit price that much more expensive). So F-15s, F-16s, Navy F/A-18s, and the "super-compromise" F-35 are going to be more prevalent.

They're still fantastic fighters, but they may not maintain overwhelming superiority against an equivalent number of well-trained pilots in SU-37s or Rafales.


19 posted on 01/17/2006 4:10:09 PM PST by Turbopilot (Nothing in the above post is or should be construed as legal research, analysis, or advice.)
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Pilots Surrender to UAVs
20 posted on 01/17/2006 4:11:30 PM PST by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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