Posted on 01/16/2006 9:48:14 PM PST by RWR8189
How much money did the abortionists and other leftist groups pay for this spectacle? I hope it was a lot.
Didn't Lindsey Graham say Republicans would have done the same thing? Is there any historical evidence to support that?
No, there is not. Breyer and Ginsburg were not treated this way.
Is there any historical evidence that doesn't. Vicious partisanship dates back to the founding of the Republic.
That's one of the silliest comments I've read in a long time. Are you saying that you don't see any difference in the level of "viciousness" between Republicans and Democrats? If not, you're not paying attention.
How quickly you forget.
The viciousness leveled against Clinton reached a level I had not seen before. Of course, Republicans see it as justified...just as the Democrats justify their current attacks on Republicans.
Going back in memory, Reagan was treated horribly by his opponents, so was Nixon (perhaps he deserved it). LBJ took heat from everyone (he too may have deserved it). Truman was the recipient of gratuitous and undeserved smears and accusations...and we all know that FDR's opponents lived in mud and slime.
I have no personal knowledge of previous events but my recent examination of Jefferson, Polk, and his Fraudulency assure me that such behavior is normal.
It's a sure bet that a fair number of those rejected were the receipients of terrible partisan slurs.
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If you looked it up, give us some examples.
Hey, I can't be expected to do all the work.
Based on personal experience, general principles, and research into the politics and political campaigns in 19th century America I'm willing to gamble that a fair number of the rejected nomineees were subjected to outrageous vilification.
You want more, you do the work.
Spoken like a true liberal. You make claims and then want someone else to prove your own point. What a laugh!
But nomination battles are not the only measure of partisanship concerning the judiciary. The contention is that only liberals exhibit such partisanship. In rebuttal I refer you to the treatment of Earl Warren following Brown vs. Board of Education.
We're not talking about vicious partisanship in general. We're talking about the treatment of Republican court nominees by Democrats. Southern Democrat racists, as I understand it, did indeed question nominees about Brown vs. Board. But Ted Kennedy calling nominees racists, smearing their character, and seeking to destroy their reputation because they might be pro-life, I would argue is unique to Democrats at this point in history.
Clinton's nominees may have been held up occasionally, but Ruth Bader Ginsburg was nominated at the suggestion of Orrin Hatch and passed without a single "No" vote. Ginsburg may be the most leftist judge int he history of the Republic, so to argue that the modern Republican Party politicizes judge selection to the extent of the modern Democrat Party, is, I believe, without foundation.
Now in a sense I don't expect Democrats to put people on the court who are diametrically opposed to them, but that is another matter.
The Democrats are in the gutter and have been for quite a while (ever since political correctness won the day). I don't deny it. But claiming their behavior is unique or over the top historically is just plain wrong.
to argue that the modern Republican Party politicizes judge selection to the extent of the modern Democrat Party, is, I believe, without foundation.
This is true as long as modern means very recent. But give them a little time. Once a trend like this starts everyone jumps on board. Pretty cynical I know but that's how it is.
Good historical footnote. I don't argue that politics has never entered the confirmation process; I argue that the Democrats are far, far more bold in making political application to the confirmation process. I further argue that this was inevitable given the capture of the Democrat Party by the New Left, which a hyperpolitical movement that politicizes absolutely everything.
I agree.
The progressive coarsening of politics is very worrisome. It began in the mid '60s with the escalation of the Viet-Nam war and the explosion of drug use.
I don't know where it will end.
It may end when the American people start voting out of office those leaders who get headlines because of insults and demagoguery, regardless of party affiliation.
Re: your #7,8,9---All I can say is that your screen name is appropriate. You refer to the "viciousness leveled at Clinton"? NONE of what what said or done to CLinton by any of his political enemies amounted to 1% of what he did to those who opposed him or threatened to make public any of his MANY crimes. If you ask me, the republicans and the media were GENEROUS to him.
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