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Why Are Darwinists So Afraid of Intelligent Design?
Human Events ^ | Jan 17, 2006 | Barney Brenner

Posted on 01/16/2006 8:32:58 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

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To: Torie

(you think these people may accuse me of not taking the topic seriously?)


181 posted on 01/16/2006 9:43:05 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: moog
Someone once suggested I was a vague Deist. Is that the same as a spiritualist?
182 posted on 01/16/2006 9:43:22 PM PST by Torie
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To: apackof2

Genesis 38:7-10

"And Er, Judah's firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the LORD; and the LORD slew him. And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother's wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother. And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother. And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also."


183 posted on 01/16/2006 9:43:55 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (Freedom isn't free--no, there's a hefty f'in fee--and if ya don't throw in your buck-o-5, who will?)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

No, I provide you cover here on that one. I am way ahead of you. :)


184 posted on 01/16/2006 9:44:29 PM PST by Torie
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To: dread78645

And which of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth had the crabs?
Surely one of them God-fearing folk would fess up to having crotch crickets ...

I think Noah did from sitting on the throne during his long "rain." Crotch crickets? EWWWWW! Wonder if that's where dung beetles came from.


185 posted on 01/16/2006 9:44:30 PM PST by moog
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To: Torie

so you are safe from my malpractice.

Don't put yourself down like that!:)


186 posted on 01/16/2006 9:45:45 PM PST by moog
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To: Luis Gonzalez

perish the thought!


187 posted on 01/16/2006 9:46:00 PM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: spunkets
There is no single instant in time. There is also no single process line.

And thus no theory of common descent?

The field of abiogenesis is complex and no link to evolution CAN be made. Evolution stands by itself.

Oh, pooh. Abiogenesis attempts to explain, among other things, the pre-biotic development of the stuff that makes life possible, does it not? And golly ... evolution is based on none other than those very same things. C'mon spunkets: NO link? The fact is that evolution begins where abiogenesis leaves off.

188 posted on 01/16/2006 9:46:09 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Torie
"Someone once suggested I was a vague Deist."

"I am the Lord, thy God."

Yeah...I can see how He could have been more assertive.

189 posted on 01/16/2006 9:46:24 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: mnehrling
As a good example of the 2nd Law, consider this thread. As evolved as the evoluntionatists are their ideations expressed herein devolved quickly into inane dreck, verbal mud mudslinging and scatology.

Yet you say "An outside force, energy, can easily cause hydrogen atoms to combine into higher states."

Well, first, thanks for fighting the sewery tide with that contribution of higher thought.

Then, second to the second law. It applies to that idea of protons married to electrons excited by external energies. What is found in nature of such excitations of massed amounts of simple hydrogens? Order or more disorder? I say the order is not increased for in nature we see no hydrogen lasing. Stars afire, but nary one alase.

190 posted on 01/16/2006 9:46:57 PM PST by bvw
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To: Torie

a spiritualist is a lapsed-deist grifter.


191 posted on 01/16/2006 9:46:57 PM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: King Prout
interesting hypothesis. show me your null hypothesis and P value.

After you dear sir. But I will say, letters do not self-replicate.

192 posted on 01/16/2006 9:47:02 PM PST by AndrewC (Darwinian logic -- It is just-so if it is just-so)
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To: Torie

Someone once suggested I was a vague Deist. Is that the same as a spiritualist?

I suppose. Heck I don't need to be a deist to be vague. I've already had to explain about 3 one-liners already. Usually it's only 2 per thread.


193 posted on 01/16/2006 9:47:29 PM PST by moog
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To: Luis Gonzalez
That's not a Scripture, its an opinion

So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God he created him;
male and female he created them.
Gen. 1:27

To begin with....

194 posted on 01/16/2006 9:47:33 PM PST by apackof2 (You can stand me up at the gates of hell, I'll stand my ground and I won’t back down)
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To: metmom

"He cannot lie and He cannot change."

So how does that exclude Him from making a rock too big for Him to lift, exactly?

I'll stick with Pastafarianism, thanks. We have Fridays off as religious holidays.


195 posted on 01/16/2006 9:48:03 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (Freedom isn't free--no, there's a hefty f'in fee--and if ya don't throw in your buck-o-5, who will?)
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To: King Prout

I guess then that I have one more level yet to sink into the abysmal pit of despair.


196 posted on 01/16/2006 9:48:20 PM PST by Torie
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To: LibertarianInExile; Luis Gonzalez
> "I'd like to have a head count of everyone who believes in ID, but does not believe in God."

If we're betting on numbers, I guess 2.

Tom Cruise and that French guy that started the Raelians

197 posted on 01/16/2006 9:48:32 PM PST by dread78645 (Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
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To: bvw
"...scatology..."

Didn't Ella Fitzgerald have a PhD in that?

198 posted on 01/16/2006 9:48:54 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: AndrewC

letters do not self-replicate.

they don't? they don't? they don't? they don't? they don't? they don't? they don't? they don't? they don't? they don't? they don't? they don't? they don't? they don't? they don't? they don't? they don't? they don't? they don't? they don't? they don't? they don't? they don't?


199 posted on 01/16/2006 9:49:01 PM PST by moog
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To: Luis Gonzalez

"...scatology..."
Didn't Ella Fitzgerald have a PhD in that?

No, that's crap....:)


200 posted on 01/16/2006 9:50:47 PM PST by moog
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