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(Two conservative Ohio) Churches could face IRS probe
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH ^ | January 16, 2006 | Mike Harden and Joe Hallett

Posted on 01/16/2006 10:46:49 AM PST by Between the Lines

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To: Between the Lines
It makes you wonder who got these 30 pastors together? Who is hiding behind these churches skirts?

Yeah. They came together for an explicitly political purpose.

Pot, kettle, black, that sort of thing...

If I was like them, and believed in turning in my fellow citizens to the Gestapo, I'd suggest they be given some of their own medicine.

Unlike the conservative churches they are seeking to destroy, they would completely fall apart without their tax exempt status.

21 posted on 01/16/2006 11:08:04 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: dufekin
God himself instituted both the jurisdiction of the Church and the Civil Magistrate. The first amendment was an attempt to keep the state out of the jurisdiction of the church as had happened in England. Both the free exercise clause and the establishment clause keep "congress" or its agents from passing any law, including tax law, regarding the church.

This is an attempt at political intimidation.

22 posted on 01/16/2006 11:08:45 AM PST by DaveyB (Peace follows victory - never before)
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To: blues_guitarist
I think churches should abandon tax exemption anyway.

My daughter's church (Fundamentalist Baptist) gave up it's tax exempt status a few years back. They separated the ministries from the church and the ministries retained a tax exempt status. The ministries owns the property and leases it to the church. So they divide their tithes between the church and donations to the ministries. That way the church only has the pastor, utilities and a small rent payment to make, yet they can still speak out politically, and the ministries are unaffected by taxes.

23 posted on 01/16/2006 11:10:01 AM PST by Between the Lines (Be careful how you live your life, it may be the only gospel anyone reads.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
One of the best reasons to get rid of the income tax for the Fair Tax.
Bingo.

24 posted on 01/16/2006 11:11:13 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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To: From One - Many

Actually it was taken away by a law passed by LBJ (in 64?) which wasn't originally intended to be used against churches.


25 posted on 01/16/2006 11:12:34 AM PST by DeweyCA
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To: Between the Lines

In related news, Reno was spotted at an Army-Navy surplus store.


26 posted on 01/16/2006 11:13:53 AM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Between the Lines
Eric Williams

His email address can be found at the church's web site.

http://www.northucc.org/

27 posted on 01/16/2006 11:13:59 AM PST by T.Smith
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To: Between the Lines

I would think it would be none other than the good "rev" Barry Lind. He's got issues if you ask me.

http://www.au.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=7007&abbr=cs_


28 posted on 01/16/2006 11:14:11 AM PST by CajunConservative (Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Jindal.)
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To: EternalVigilance
They came together for an explicitly political purpose.

Pot, kettle, black, that sort of thing...

Beat you by a minute and a half!

29 posted on 01/16/2006 11:15:02 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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To: zzen01

It should be noted that a lot of mainline denominations give a lot of slack to their pastors. So, in some cases the pastors will be accurately reflecting their denomination's view, some will be working against the view of the majority of clergy (let alone of parishoners).


30 posted on 01/16/2006 11:15:39 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: blues_guitarist

A national retail sales tax is worth five minutes of your time.

FAQ page:http://www.fairtaxvolunteer.org/smart/faq.html


31 posted on 01/16/2006 11:17:26 AM PST by Principled
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To: T.Smith

Boy, I bet their staff meetings are interesting...

http://www.northucc.org/staff.html


32 posted on 01/16/2006 11:19:35 AM PST by Humidston (Two words: TERM LIMITS!)
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To: Between the Lines
the moderate ministers

The reporters prove themselves liars when they go on to add this:

affiliations include: The American Baptist Churches/USA; the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ); the Episcopal Church in the USA; the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America; Judaism; the United Church of Christ; the United Methodist Church; Presbyterian Church, USA; and the Unitarian Universalist Association.

33 posted on 01/16/2006 11:22:32 AM PST by PAR35
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To: Humidston

Try reading their "Declaration of Inclusiveness". Barf...


34 posted on 01/16/2006 11:25:51 AM PST by T.Smith
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To: Between the Lines

Does this mean that the libnut pols will stop bowing and scraping at the alter of black churches during every campaign?


35 posted on 01/16/2006 11:44:28 AM PST by trubluolyguy (Allah demands you to send your son to die for him, God sent His son to die for me.)
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To: zzen01
"Moderate ministers"

Guess those are the ones who try to see Satan's side of things -- out of 'fairness'.

36 posted on 01/16/2006 11:49:20 AM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Between the Lines

"North Congregational United Church of Christ is committed in word and deed to the equality of all God's people. We welcome and affirm persons of every race, gender, age, sexual orientation, nationality, ethnicity, family status, economic status, physical, mental or emotional ability into the full participation, membership, and leadership in our faith community."
http://www.northucc.org/open_and_affirming.html


37 posted on 01/16/2006 11:50:56 AM PST by PAR35
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To: Between the Lines
they should get to those 2 evangelical churches right after investigating the 1000's of black churches that host democrats each election year.
38 posted on 01/16/2006 11:59:26 AM PST by conservative physics
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To: conservative physics
should get to those 2 evangelical churches right after investigating the 1000's of black churches

That would be racist.
/sarcasm

39 posted on 01/16/2006 12:16:36 PM PST by DaveyB (Peace follows victory - never before)
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To: blues_guitarist

We do not have to lose our tax exempt status. The government has no right to take money from a church that belongs to God first! The point is that the church should be engaging this lost culture at every level and especially at the elected level of goverment. Those on the lost left have no trouble gathering funds at their kind of gatherings to support abortion rights, gay rights, etc.--why do we want to give up our tax exempt status? The idea that it doesn't matter is wrong.


40 posted on 01/16/2006 12:32:09 PM PST by truthingod
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