Posted on 01/16/2006 9:53:39 AM PST by Paul Ross
> Want government to spend huge gobs of tax money in one of its unconstitutional agencies - not a conservative goal.
Liar. NASA serves to defend the nation, and national defense is Constitutional.
> think that the government and Al Gore created the internet
Liar. *YOU* are the one bringing up Gore. *YOU* are the one ignorign the fact that the Internet *was* invented by and for ARPA.
> Think that the government is what should be doing the research in the US
Liar. There's a definite role for governemtn R&D. But only an extremist zealot liek yourself woudl assume that that means that the role means *all* the research.
> You are a typical leftists
Liar.
> Conservatism is about LIMITED government
Including national defense. Try to remember that when you crawl back into your hole.
> the real difference between liberals and some self-described "conservatives" boils down to little more than the shape and size of their unconstitutional special interests.
Indeed. Many of these so-called "conservatives" want the government to do the unconstitutional... reneg on their requirement to defend the nation. Sad, sad little half-men.
I see you're following the democrat way. Trying to shout down the opposition. Calling me a liar. Well be happy, I'm done wasting my time on a statist douche bag like you. We'll conclude leaving it that you want to plunder your fellow citizens for some puerile space flight dream that you and your fellow space heads could never afford on your own. If space is so valuable then form your own company to explore it. You won't a because no one with a grain of sense would invest a penny in such a total waste of money and b you're too much of a loser to form anything. All you space heads, ecofreaks, etc. are about the same - wild dreams but want somone else to pay for them. You remind me of the New Orleans losers that we're still paying for hotel room for - on the internet looking for - not jobs but more ways to get more government hand outs. You and your ilk are the reason that government spends over half of the GDP today. You disgust me.
> Trying to shout down the opposition. Calling me a liar.
If you don;t like being called a liar... then perhaps you should not intentionally and wildly mischaracterize the other guys position.
>statist douche bag like you.
Case in point.
> plunder your fellow citizens for some puerile space flight dream
And another.
> no one with a grain of sense would invest a penny in such a total waste of money
And another (as Musk, Bezos, Branson, Allen, et al ably demonstrate)
> you're too much of a loser to form anything.
Another case in point. Pssst: how many winning corporations have *you* formed?
> You and your ilk are the reason that government spends over half of the GDP today.
And another.
>You disgust me.
*Imagine* my concern. A luddite who can't be bothered to do two seconds research or even tell the truth is disgusted by me. Probably disgusted by the fact that my stocks in private space companies are outperforming all my others...
I'm laughing all the way to the bank, chump.
I wasn't even going to bother repying to you, but the answer is: one
LOL. To infinity and beyond.
And it does what?
> LOL. To infinity and beyond.
You mock. But try to imagine US military aviation without the NASA (and NASA predecessor, NACA) research that went into it. Here's a hint: nowhere.
Sells IT services
Ah. So... since basic science research is supposed to be supported by private industry, and not the government, what percentage of your gross income is devoted to R&D? What do you focus on? Quantum computing? Holographic data storage technology? Genetic computing?
What high-risk science does your company do?
How do you propose we hold it?
Since countries like China are carrying on in space exploration, the argument can pretty easily be made that if we (the government) don't continue our own space program, we would be shirking our defense duties.
Even assuming China collapses into the stone age, space-specific research is still a defense priority. Basic science, carried out correctly, *always* has numerous unforseen benefits, most of which have defense applications. It would be criminal to allow the US to stop progressing. Also, the best way to assure that the United States cannot be destroyed is to make the United States unbeatable, and the best way to do that is constant expansion. And the Earth is full, noplace left to conquer.
A civilization either grows or declines. "Static" just doesn't really happen.
Treaty. The Treaty exists and the status quo is firmly in concrete existence. We can wargame what-ifs all day long, but the Treaty is still in effect.
http://spacedev.com/newsite/templates/subpage_article.php?pid=553
SpaceDev Closes $5.2 Million Financing
New and Existing Institutional Investors Fund SpaceDev
POWAY, CA –January 17, 2006--SpaceDev (OTCBB: SPDV) raised gross proceeds of approximately $5.2 million through the sale of convertible preferred stock and warrants to a small syndicate of new and existing institutional investors. The proceeds of this financing will be used to pay certain transaction expenses incurred in connection with SpaceDev’s acquisition of Starsys, to pay the cash consideration to Starsys shareholders, to repay certain outstanding indebtedness of Starsys and to fund the working capital needs of the combined company.
The percent that the companies I buy software and hardware from spend on their R&D. It's called capitalism. I spend my $$$ on the most cost effective products - if they want my money they spend a fraction of what I spend with them on R&D. Those fractions add up from small businesses like mine and fuel products that people actually want. The market place at work.
What high-risk science does your company do?
I'm not in that business, nor is appropriate for everyone to be in that business.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7133144/
Company fine-tunes space module plans
Launch set for early 2006 on Russian-Ukrainian rocket
Space entrepreneur Robert Bigelow has been making quiet inroads into the development of Earth orbiting inflatable modules. The privately built and financed habitable structures would be available for research, manufacturing and other uses, including lodging for future space tourists.
Bigelow Aerospace of North Las Vegas is eyeing launch early next year of Genesis Pathfinder spacecraft — a shakeout of systems to be used on a full-scale inflatable space structure dubbed the Nautilus, and now referred to as the BA-330.
Robert Bigelow, owner of the Budget Suites of America Hotel Chain, among other ventures, is investing his own money in the inflatable space module idea.
OOOOPS!!! There you go again!
>The percent that the companies I buy software and hardware from spend on their R&D.
And many of them benefit from government-funded R&D. Do you make sure to not do business with these companies? Or are you a hypocrit, railing against government R&D while nevertheless grabbing onto the bennies with both hands?
>> What high-risk science does your company do?
>I'm not in that business...
And then who is? Or do you simply see your role as that of the vulture?
> nor is appropriate for everyone to be in that business.
But it is, of course, appropriate for the governemnt to be in that business. It's appropriate Consitutionally, economically and ethically.
Because of the population implosion? How do they figure?
Not relevant. They'd benefit a lot more if they had the use of the money the government charged them for all of the horse crap "research" that it funds.
But it is, of course, appropriate for the governemnt to be in that business.
not really
It's appropriate Consitutionally, economically and ethically.
Another opinion of yours stated like a fact. To a statist there isn't anything that the government does that isn't "appropriate Consitutionally, economically and ethically" I read the constitution just the other day and I couldn't find anything about research (and don't give me that common good crap)
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