Posted on 01/15/2006 8:44:21 AM PST by Mojave
Run away.. Or 'grow a thick skin' as you say.
Drug laws versus drug promoters.
Fascist stormtroopers vs. liberty-loving free men.
Dope loving.
Sorry, I don't love you at all.
Some links regarding prohibition and violent crime:
HOMICIDE RATES AND SUBSTANCE CONTROL POLICYAlso of interest: Alcohol Prohibition Was A Failure. This presents statistics on crime rates during Alcohol Prohibition and compares them to the periods immediately before and after.Abstract
One theory of the primary cause of violent crime in the United States is that the prohibition of alcohol or drugs drives up the prices of these substances which creates a highly profitable and violent black market. In this paper I test this theory against other theories by performing a time series regression analysis between the United States’ homicide rate and proxies for substance control policy, unemployment, gun control policy, religious activity, and drug use. Available data sets during the time period 1900 to 1997 are studied. My research indicates that the theory of the primary cause of violent crime in the United States which is most consistent with the available data is a violent black market caused by the War on Drugs today, and Prohibition in the 1920’s.
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Previous Research
Many economists, such as Milton Friedman (1991: 57) and William Niskanen (1992: 238), have argued that the Drug War is responsible for the United States’ crime problem. Bruce Benson et al. (1992: 679) performed a cross-sectional analysis of data from 67 Florida counties in 1986 and 1987 to determine if property crime is positively related to the intensity of drug enforcement activities. Harold Brumm et al. (1995: 509) examined data on 57 cities in 32 states in 1985 to determine if homicide rates are positively correlated with the percentage of a communities law enforcement resources that are devoted to the enforcement of drug laws. Both property crime and violent crime were determined to be positively correlated with the intensity of drug enforcement activities.
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Conclusion
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One possible theory for the correlation between the homicide rate and the substance control proxy is that homicides are caused by drug and alcohol use, and therefore homicides increase as drug and alcohol arrests increase. This theory does not explain the data. I have shown in table 1 that the fit between the homicide rate and the drug use rate is very poor, but this result is of somewhat limited value since drug use data is only available from 1975 to 1997 and none of the other proxies are significant during this time period. The best argument against the theory that substance abuse causes crime is the end of prohibition. The end of prohibition by the repeal of the 18th amendment in 1933 was a political choice unrelated to a change in alcohol use. This political choice was soon followed by a large decrease in the homicide rate. This indicates that the theory which is most consistent with the data is that changes in the homicide rate are responses to changes in substance control policy. I therefore conclude that the best theory of the primary cause of violent crime in the United States is a violent black market caused by the War on Drugs today, and Prohibition in the 1920’s.
Violence and the U.S. Prohibitions of drugs and alcohol -- This one is very long
This paper examines the relation between prohibitions and violence using the historical behavior of the homicide rate in the United States. The results document that increases in enforcement of drug and alcohol prohibition have been associated with increases in the homicide rate, and auxilliary evidence suggests this positive correlation reflects a causal effect of prohibition enforcement on homicide. Controlling for other potential determinants of the homicide rate - the age of the population, the incarceration rate, economic conditions, gun availability, and the death penalty - does not alter the conclusion that drug and alcohol prohibition have substantially raised the homicide rate in the United States over much of the past 100 years.
We may have something to agree on here, although it should be noted that the USA PATRIOT act was partly sold as a means to apply drug enforcement methods to terrorism investigations.
Yep, that's all you got. Go find yourself a home on a nanny-state lover's forum.
You're a doper?
Not surprising since the bulk of it was written during the Clinton administration.
True. The Reno DoJ wanted PATRIOT-like powers for years and their efforts were blocked by the Republicans.
I still don't know of any civil rights that have been infringed by the PA. It seems like at least one case would have surfaced by now.
Well, the FBI obtained records from several SCUBA schools. One shop fought back though and the feds backed off rather than try to push their case in court. But besides this, many of the provisions are carried out in secret. If you are subject to an administrative warrant under section 215 then you are forbidden to speak about it.
Or in some cases lick them.
Sounds like the fedgov worked through the system there and lost. The scuba schools have no gripe.
How many administrative warrants under section 215 have been issued and to whom?
The Libertarian doper got busted.
No contest.
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