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'We Will Cut Them Until Iran Asks For Mercy'
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 1-15-2006 | Massoud Ansari

Posted on 01/14/2006 5:46:28 PM PST by blam

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To: blam

Can we give Iraq to the Kurds and let the Shia and Sunni duke it out over Iran?


41 posted on 01/14/2006 6:57:08 PM PST by ShowMeMom (America: The home of the FREE because of the BRAVE.)
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To: indcons

The Baluchs are a tride or nation, they speak their own language. The inhabited corners of all three countries, not just Pakistan. These are in the easternmost part of Iran, up to the Pakistani border. They extend something like 200 miles into Iran.


42 posted on 01/14/2006 6:58:42 PM PST by JasonC
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To: wildcatf4f3
Can't we build a huge strategic toilet and just flush the middle east down it.

Those have been my sentiments from time to time. It is amazing how the forces of ignorance and disinformation are so dominant, seemingly, over there.

43 posted on 01/14/2006 6:58:42 PM PST by Tennessean4Bush (<a href="http://www.yahoo.com">Yahoo</a> test)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Bttt mice elf


44 posted on 01/14/2006 6:59:41 PM PST by Tennessean4Bush (When you come to a fork in the road, take it.)
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To: RedRover
Well, they have about 300 helicopters in their inventory, maybe half of them actually serviceable. The most useful thing they have for this sort of terrain. They also have a few thousand tanks and APCs, mostly in the west, but enough overall to have a few hundred in the area. Those can't hold all of it, but they can do point to point convoys and take particular towns or what-not. But give the guys on the ground a little training, a few reasonable missiles (ATGMs to deal with armor from hills e.g.), or better still a little air cover, and the Iranians could not hold the eastern "handle" of the country, abutting Pakistan. For a couple hundred miles. They have zero infrastructure or wealth to project serious force into so barren an area, logistically speaking.
45 posted on 01/14/2006 7:02:46 PM PST by JasonC
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To: chet_in_ny
Regardless of the denomination, it never ceases to amaze me the number of those "One Univeral Truth" people who reside here in the US.

The difference is that ours in the US have it right. $mart people, like Pat Robert$on. Gonna build another amu$ement park for Chri$tian$, in I$rael.

Go Pat go.

46 posted on 01/14/2006 7:08:15 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: JasonC

The province called Baluchistan is in Pakistan. Baluchis may be spread over Afghanistan and Iran but the bulk live in Pakistan. Inhuman scumbags, that's what the Baluchis are...


47 posted on 01/14/2006 7:08:27 PM PST by indcons
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To: indcons

Do you think that "Abdul Hameed Reeki, chief spokesman of the Jundallah" is a Baluchi? Or is his group taking refuge there to conduct ops into Iran?


48 posted on 01/14/2006 7:20:29 PM PST by RedRover
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To: teenyelliott

"I try never to run across any muslims at all. I can't tell the good ones from the bad ones."


Easy. The Bad ones are still breathing. OK, OK, I kid, I kid! ...the breathing ones are no good either.


49 posted on 01/14/2006 7:21:07 PM PST by SoCal_Republican (Bubbleheads for Bush)
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To: infowarrior

Dammit they need to pass out score cards so we infidels can keep up with who is against whom.


50 posted on 01/14/2006 7:21:17 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: indcons
You are just wrong. There are provinces call Baluchistan in all 3 countries, because there are Baluch speakers in all 3 countries. The nation straddles 3 countries just as the Kurds do Iran, Iraq, and Turkey. If you tell a Turk that Kurdistan is a province of Iraq and only exists in Iraq, expect an earful.
51 posted on 01/14/2006 7:23:10 PM PST by JasonC
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To: RedRover
Baluchistan? Never heard of this "stan" before..

..think Kurds. :/

52 posted on 01/14/2006 7:23:43 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: blam

Prayer bump


53 posted on 01/14/2006 7:23:49 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: RedRover

The Shias and the Sunnis in Pakistan have been at each other's throats for many years now. Though I don't know much about the Jundallah (translation: "army of allah"), I am willing to bet money that Reeki is a native Baluchi sunni. The Baluchis are known for their distrust of outsiders (even muslims from the rest of Pakistan) and it is highly unlikely that they are allowing his group to merely take refuge there.

To be honest, this news is not surprising at all. A few years ago, sunnis ransacked the office of the consul general of Iran and killed 12 Iranian staffers in public (I am not 100% sure about the number though). In fact, Friday prayers in Pakistan are usually marked by attacks on shia mosques by sunnis and vice versa.


54 posted on 01/14/2006 7:32:41 PM PST by indcons
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To: blam
Iran ends its uranium enrichment freezeClick on link for whole article

From China, Iran has imported the 150 kilometer CSS-8 ballistic missile and a series of land-, sea-, and air-launched short-range cruise missiles. Many of these latter are anti-ship weapons. In May 2003, the United States imposed sanctions on the North China Industries Corporation for helping Iran’s Shahid Hemmat Industrial group acquire missiles “capable of delivering weapons of mass destruction.”

In addition, Grigory Omelchenko, a member of Ukraine’s parliament, revealed in early February 2005 that a former officer in Ukraine’s secret police sold six unarmed Soviet-era cruise missiles to Iran between 1999 and 2001. The nuclear-capable missile, known as the KH-55 or the AS15, has a range of up to 3,000 km and travels near the ground in order to avoid air defenses.

For at least the last decade, Chinese organizations have also sold Iran the ingredients and equipment needed to make poison gas. According to the latest CIA report, Iran has continued to seek “production technology, training, and expertise” from Chinese entities. In 1996, the press reported that China was sending entire factories for making poison gas to Iran, including special glass-lined vessels for mixing precursor chemicals and hundreds of tons of chemicals useful for making nerve agents. In 1997, a Chinese company was caught sending Iran special alloy piping useful for chemical weapon manufacture through Hong Kong. These transfers have made China the greatest contributor to Iran’s chemical weapon capability. During approximately the same period, Iran was also getting dual-use chemical imports from firms in India

Peruse the table of contents for countries,companies,and idividuals responsible for arming Iran

55 posted on 01/14/2006 7:43:38 PM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit our sister.. but we knew what to do.. we gathered rocks and squashed her!)
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To: blam

Hmmmm, interesting. I wonder what would happen if the Iranian students got in contact with these guys. They could make an arrangement that if Iran became a real democracy everyone would have the same rights. Could be interesting.


56 posted on 01/14/2006 7:58:58 PM PST by McGavin999 (If Intelligence Agencies can't find leakers, how can we expect them to find terrorists?)
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To: Cicero
Never cross a grumpy Muslim.

Is there any other kind?

Mark

57 posted on 01/14/2006 8:04:41 PM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: Dog
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Unfortunately, that's how our current enemy got a hold of Stinger missiles.

Mark

58 posted on 01/14/2006 8:05:25 PM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: JasonC

The province called Baluchistan exists primarily in Pakistan. There are Baluchi people in Iran and Afghanistan but the regions they live in don't go by the same name. In any case, the numbers of Baluchis in both Iran and Afghanistan are outnumbered by those in Pakistan.

The area in Iran you are mentioning is a part of a larger province called Kerman or Sistan va Baluchestan.


59 posted on 01/14/2006 8:11:11 PM PST by indcons
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To: blam

I am whistling "On the Sunni Side of the Street" Hey is this part of that group we have been told about that are ready to overthrow the mullahs? Iran is primarily Shiittes. This may be good.


60 posted on 01/14/2006 8:11:40 PM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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