Ed Meese Takes Chris Matthews Head On 1/12/2006 (Cleans Matthews' Clock)

www.freerepublic.com | January 13, 2006

[Mind-numbed Robot]

You could intercept the same calls with a scanner that is readily available at Radio Shack. Remember the Dem operative from Florida who intercepted a Newt Gingrich call and gave it to the media? Same technology.

The big difference is the limited range of such scanners, their inability to monitor all channels simultaneously, the absence of software to "hear" and understand keywords and then isolate and sort them. Regardless, the technology is similar and the legal issue is the same.

This is not Clintonesque parsing.

[devolve]

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You can take him!

[Dr.Zoidberg]

They call it a b*tch slap for a reason. And the B*tch got slapped good.

I have a sneaking suspicion Mr. Meese won't be returning to that program any time soon. Heheh

[jjmcgo]

These libs are blowing up like Iraqi suicide bombers. First, Letterman last week admitting to O'Reilly he didn't know what he was talking about, after first proving it, and now Matthews being devoured by Meese.
Meese must have felt like Mark McGwire at a home-run derby:
"C'mon, throw me another one!"

[antiRepublicrat]

You could intercept the same calls with a scanner that is readily available at Radio Shack. Remember the Dem operative from Florida who intercepted a Newt Gingrich call and gave it to the media? Same technology.

And completely covered under the wiretapping laws. Technology has changed, but we still call it tapping.

This is not Clintonesque parsing.

It absolutely is. "We're not tapping, we're spying, see, we're not putting a tap on a specific phone line, so it's not tapping." Clintonesque BS. They intercepted phone conversations. That's tapping.

[Jonah Johansen]

"Do you doubt for a moment that Matthews knew full well that he was lying thru his teeth every time he spoke?" MarkeyD
Precisely!

“MATTHEWS: OK. Well, Scooter Libby is facing 30 years in jail for a mountain out of a mole hill. That‘s a serious matter.
MEESE: It has nothing to do—he wasn‘t even charged with that crime.”

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What Matthews is doing here is not spin, it is not bias, it is not being disingenuous, it is not flacking for the Democrats, It is lying plane and simple. There is absolutely no doubt that he knows that as Meese says “he wasn’t even charged with that crime”.

He is trying to get his audience to believe something which he knows to be false , i.e.he is lying.

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I just wonder how the management at NBC justifies to GE and its stockholders, the idea that mouthing DNC talking points is more important, than attracting viewers or advertising bucks. I believe if they replaced either Chris or Keith with randomly selected, non-syndicated conservative radio talk show host, with zero name recognition, their viewer ship would increase dramatically.

[RedBloodedAmerican]

Matthews didn't want to hear meeses answers because it pointed out how false all the accusations against Bush are. He kept cutting Meese off and would ask the same thing over and over even tho the answer was given.
I don't think the liberals want the truth, it seems they just want to go on believing whatever they want to.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

MATTHEWS: OK. Well, Scooter Libby is facing 30 years in jail for a mountain out of a mole hill. That‘s a serious matter.

This one sentence proves that Matthews is a dolt, has no idea what he is talking about and is unable to even read a simple newspaper story.

[RetiredSWO]

...if Matthews is a moron, or is intentionally misrepresenting what Scooter Libby was indicted for

Yes!!!

[Mind-numbed Robot]

It absolutely is. "We're not tapping, we're spying, see, we're not putting a tap on a specific phone line, so it's not tapping." Clintonesque BS. They intercepted phone conversations. That's tapping.

Is your objection to the fact of it or the words used to defend it?

[D-fendr]

Wiretapping is tapping your wire. It is what it is. All calls are taped or monitored. This is called wire tapping.

If you monitor/record some calls to some people to some places it's more properly called surveillance. Like you watch a streetcorner or a bar. You watch the connection between al Queda and Mohammed in Boston.

One is wiretapping, the other surveillance.

The distinction is important because there is an important difference. It's not a subterfuge, it's using the correct word.

[RedBloodedAmerican]

Wire tapping has its own definition based on how it works and who is the subject, and what the NSA is doing is NOT wiretapping. Maybe you missed the dozens of threads explaining this on FR or maybe you missed the White House press briefing a few weeks ago where President Bush explained it. But the United States Intel community is NOT "spying on Americans" or "wiretapping" or even "eavesdropping", okay? The leftist media is refusing to listen to the facts. Don't be like them, please.

[D-fendr]

They intercepted phone conversations. That's tapping.

Here's a test: You have the choice between me tapping your phone or intercepting your calls to al Queda in Iraq.

Which would you prefer? Either, since there's no difference, right?

[RedBloodedAmerican]

Yes, and the correct word has it's own definition and coordinating set of circumstances!

[pollyannaish]

MATTHEWS: What checks his power then, the president‘s to do it? How does—is there somebody there saying Mr. President, you cannot bug that person, you cannot intercept that person‘s phone messages.

When was the last time somebody said "THE VOTERS ARE THE ULTIMATE CHECK AND BALANCE." He is accountable to US! Sheesh. If we are upset, we will vote the guy out. What is so hard about that to understand? /Rant

[antiRepublicrat]

Great explanation of this "wire tapping", so-called!! I have been trying to post this for the past month - it is not wire tapping. IT is digital data stream interception - no human being is listening to a conversation or reading an e-mail on the first pass.

Doesn't matter. It's the interception itself by any means, including electronic devices, that matters. That is what is covered by the wiretapping laws, and what is generally referred to as wiretapping.

Go ahead, plug a computer into your neighbor's VOIP phone line and start recording everything he says. Don't listen, just record. Then turn yourself in and see whether you get prosecuted under the federal wiretapping laws.

All this Clintonesque word-weasling on the Republican side is getting sickening.

[r9etb]

Just another example that media talking heads -- be it Sean Hannity or Chrissy Matthews -- are at a huge disadvantage when they try to debate people who are much smarter and better-informed than they are.

Matthews has an emotional opinion on the matter, fed by animosities that have nothing to do with the issues at hand here. He clearly never thought this stuff through beyond the bare minimum needed to feed his pre-existing animosities.

Meese, OTOH, is a very much brighter fellow to begin with, and he has a deep working knowledge of the real factors that underly these issues.

With that sort of difference between the participants in the debate, it's no wonder that this was such an unfair fight.

Plus which, of course, Meese has the advantage of being on the right side of an issue that is easily understood if by anybody who's able to look past their personal issues....

[Howlin]

wasn't this swell?

[r9etb]

All this Clintonesque word-weasling on the Republican side is getting sickening.

So I guess this means we should put you down on the side of "don't try to figure out what the bad guys are trying to do to you."

[antiRepublicrat]

If we are upset, we will vote the guy out. What is so hard about that to understand?

Perfectly applicable for the first term, meaningless for the second.