Ed Meese Takes Chris Matthews Head On 1/12/2006 (Cleans Matthews' Clock)

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Great post; thanks for all of that info!

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A well-placed intelligence source reports that Abramoff is also linked to another Bongo cohort in Washington, DC -- a mysterious player and long time Bongo lobbyist named Joe Szlavik. Under George W. Bush, the New Jersey-based Slavik has reportedly become a "Mr. Africa" in Washington lobbying and government circles that extend into the Oval Office.

Szlavik has reportedly been fronting for Bongo for the past 6 to 8 years, his last major service to Bongo, who is both a Muslim and Freemason, painting a veneer of legitimacy to the last Gabonese presidential election, a massive fraud sold as "participatory democracy." Another knowledgeable source comfirmed that Szlavik has been a lobbyist for Bongo since at least 1992. He is also apparently very close to Bongo's eldest daughter, Pascaline who also serves as her father's principal secretary.

Wayne Madsen

As a former French Diplomat, the last known location of his second wife Jacqueline was in Gabon under the employ of the President Omar Bongo's daughter, Pascaline Mferri Bongo.

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Joseph Wilson was the U.S. Ambassador to the Gabonese Republic and to the Democratic Republic of Sao Tome and Principe from 1992 to 1995. Szlavik started lobbying for Bongo in 1992. Both Jacqueline and Szlavik are close to Bongo's daughter. Hmmm...surely they must all know each other.

A well-placed intelligence source reports that Abramoff is also linked to another Bongo cohort in Washington, DC -- a mysterious player and long time Bongo lobbyist named Joe Szlavik. Under George W. Bush, the New Jersey-based Slavik has reportedly become a "Mr. Africa" in Washington lobbying and government circles that extend into the Oval Office.

Szlavik has reportedly been fronting for Bongo for the past 6 to 8 years, his last major service to Bongo, who is both a Muslim and Freemason, painting a veneer of legitimacy to the last Gabonese presidential election, a massive fraud sold as "participatory democracy." Another knowledgeable source comfirmed that Szlavik has been a lobbyist for Bongo since at least 1992. He is also apparently very close to Bongo's eldest daughter, Pascaline who also serves as her father's principal secretary.

Wayne Madsen

As a former French Diplomat, the last known location of his second wife Jacqueline was in Gabon under the employ of the President Omar Bongo's daughter, Pascaline Mferri Bongo.

Source

Joseph Wilson was the U.S. Ambassador to the Gabonese Republic and to the Democratic Republic of Sao Tome and Principe from 1992 to 1995. Szlavik started lobbying for Bongo in 1992. Both Jacqueline and Szlavik are close to Bongo's daughter. Hmmm...surely they must all know each other.

This issue has politicians on Bush's side getting more Clintonesque every day. So far I've seen several versions of them depending on what the definition of "is" is.

You are simply wrong. Specific words have specific meanings.

Per Webster:
wiretap
2 entries found for wiretap.
Main Entry: 1wire·tap
Pronunciation: 'wIr-"tap
Function: verb
intransitive senses : to tap a telephone or telegraph wire in order to get information
transitive senses : to tap the telephone of

A specific question was asked and answered.

Specific words have specific meanings. Per Webster:

And Webster means nothing when talking about law. Read the law to see what it defines, which is interception of any communications, whether oral or data over wire, radio, fibre, etc.

Thank you for the link.

What a Maroon!

And Webster means nothing when talking about law. Read the law to see what it defines, which is interception of any communications, whether oral or data over wire, radio, fibre, etc.

I read the Code and I read the question and answer from the Hardball transcript.

MEESE: It‘s not really spying on Americans, it‘s intercepting international communications dealing with terrorists at the present time, or enemies in those days, in which, on occasion, some—one of the links would be to telephones within the United States, but it‘s not wiretapping. It‘s not bugging. The news media is almost totally getting it wrong.

MATTHEWS: But why—what‘s the difference if I‘m on the phone with somebody in Saudi Arabia and I‘m being tapped?

MEESE: Well you‘re not being tapped. The tapping is a particular technique of connecting into the wires of a particular phone or into—plugging into a particular wireless phone. This is intercepting communications that are going overseas. There‘s a lot of technology to it that I can‘t go into right now.

MATTHEWS: But it‘s still eavesdropping, isn‘t it?

MEESE: It is surveillance. It‘s surveillance, under certain circumstances and it‘s justifiable in a wartime situation or in—when you‘re dealing with enemies of the country.

I do not see anything remotely Clintonesque in the responses. Matthews implied that the interception of a signal from an overseas transmission is the same as tapping someone's phone, and it simply is not.

If you are saying that the two practices are governed by the same Code, then, you are correct. I don't think anyone has disagreed on that point.

On your claim that Meese's answer was on the order of "it depend on what the definition of 'is' is", then you are quite simply wrong. Meese stated quite simply and correctly that it is surveillance.

If your phone is tapped, then every call is monitored. All of your calls. Your discussion of your wife's doctor visit, your call to your mom, your business calls, your chats with friends. If a signal from an international line is monitored, then only calls going overseas are monitored, and those are from random sources. It's like the difference between a cop tailing you all day taking pictures of everywhere you go, and the camera on the red light taking pictures of the random cars that run the light.

Some people don't WANT to "get it," you know?

It's 18 ACRES of main frame computers snatching keywords out of the air.