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In 2005, US Economy Lost 51,000 Manufcturing Jobs and Wages Lagged Inflation
AmericanEconomicAlert.org ^ | Thursday, January 12, 2006 | Professor Peter Morici

Posted on 01/13/2006 6:50:55 AM PST by Willie Green

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To: ex-Texan
Everything we use or consume is made in China, Mexico, or India.

That's funny! Next thing you'll tell us that food is 30% more expensive than it was 5 months ago. LOL!

81 posted on 01/13/2006 9:08:02 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Stop associating with Commies and we'll stop mentioning that you associate with Commies.)
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To: Phantom Lord
GDP growth, low unemployment, record home ownership, and low interest rates say otherwise Willie.

That's the "illusion of prosperity" that I was talking about.
This lame horse economy is being forced to plod along by beating it with the whip of deficit spending.
All the while our wealth creating industries are being shut down and the American taxpayer is being buried in unfathomable debt.
There is no such thing as a free lunch. Sooner or later, the horse is going to drop dead from the Bush Administration's deliberately irresponsible abuse.

Large Trade Deficit Spells More Difficulties Ahead for US Economy

82 posted on 01/13/2006 9:10:14 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: hedgetrimmer

I am not couching anything. We just have a disagreement in regard to government policy spurring economic development abroad.

You think one way, I think the other. Whether the program bears fruit or not, should be up for evaluation. It should be audited, like any other govenment program, and if nothing has come out of it...then such action by the government should be discontinued.

But let's not descend the debate to a differnet tangent (which would be beneath us, since that is a ploy of democrats.)

According to my original supposition, that you cannot make an equivocation between people who feel that should be "entitled" to by right to have a good job and high pay without looking for opportunity, and government policy to incentivize foreign governments to open and modernize their respective economies still holds.

And, there's nothing, I repeat, nothing disingenious about my point. To argue such a thing is a mere act of deflection, and truly a democrat debate tactic (again beneath us.).

In Hoc.


83 posted on 01/13/2006 9:12:25 AM PST by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis.")
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To: Willie Green
That's the "illusion of prosperity" that I was talking about.

My families prosperity, sale of our previous home in 12 days above asking price in December (and the highest price ever paid for a home in our community), our building of a new home that is twice the size of the one we just sold, along with our projected 2006 income being nearly triple that of what we earned in 2005 is not an "illusion of prosperity". It is reality!

84 posted on 01/13/2006 9:18:41 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: doc30
Same thing here also. Pretty much through out the Midwest.

From friends and colleagues on the coasts, they are feeling the same pressures. The energy spike slammed everyone.
85 posted on 01/13/2006 9:21:46 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Willie Green
All the while our wealth creating industries are being shut down and the American taxpayer is being buried in unfathomable debt.

Household net worth at record $51 trillion.

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86 posted on 01/13/2006 9:25:52 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Stop associating with Commies and we'll stop mentioning that you associate with Commies.)
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To: af22721

More buyers than sellers. More demand than supply.


88 posted on 01/13/2006 9:29:39 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Stop associating with Commies and we'll stop mentioning that you associate with Commies.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

It was not intended as a smack and if it came across as one, I apologize. I'm building my own business and think it's the only way to go.


89 posted on 01/13/2006 9:30:39 AM PST by Reaganesque
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To: Toddsterpatriot; af22721

I attribute it to the constant ads on radio, "Add gold to your portfolio."


90 posted on 01/13/2006 9:30:43 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Toddsterpatriot; Willie Green
American taxpayer is being buried in unfathomable debt.

Household net worth at record $51 trillion.

I'll go with Willie on this one. Willie was referring to the national debt and the crushing taxation it is likely to cause down the road. Unless I am mistaken, he was not talking about personal debt. Hence his use of "taxpayer".

92 posted on 01/13/2006 9:32:11 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Phantom Lord; Willie Green
Willie said "All the while our wealth creating industries are being shut down" yet our wealth continues to rise to record levels. Perhaps Willie is mistaken?

Willie was referring to the national debt and the crushing taxation it is likely to cause down the road.

Unfathomable debt? Isn't the national debt about $8 trillion? About $27,000 per capita? See my link in post #86. Household net worth $51 trillion, up $10.4 trillion since 2001. How much has national debt increased since 2001?

93 posted on 01/13/2006 9:41:37 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Stop associating with Commies and we'll stop mentioning that you associate with Commies.)
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To: Reaganesque
Don't apologize. If you use that tagline and then whine, perhaps you deserve a smack.
94 posted on 01/13/2006 9:42:55 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Stop associating with Commies and we'll stop mentioning that you associate with Commies.)
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To: af22721
Why more buyers than sellers ? Why more demand than supply ?

You'd have to ask the buyers that question.

95 posted on 01/13/2006 9:43:41 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Stop associating with Commies and we'll stop mentioning that you associate with Commies.)
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To: Phantom Lord

The state of the economy at the moment is in the eye of the beholder. Current economic measurements are positive, but I am concerned about these questions:

Is our nation's growth in wealth based on the net increase of tangible assets or is it based on manipulated speculation funded by deficit spending?

Does our diminshed manafacturing capacity expose America to being dependent upon the goodwill of other countries for the supply of goods and materials needed to sustain our national defense?

Does the lack of a self sufficent energy policy expose
the economy to ruin through blackmail?

I do not have answers to these questions, but they are
questions that I feel need to be considered in the economic debate.


96 posted on 01/13/2006 9:47:27 AM PST by buckalfa
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To: Willie Green
Exporting America . . . Why Corporate Greed Is Shipping American Jobs Overseas
97 posted on 01/13/2006 9:49:12 AM PST by ex-Texan (Mathew 7:1 through 6)
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To: buckalfa
Does our diminshed manafacturing capacity expose ...

Problem with this is that our manufacturing capacity is higher than it has ever been.

Does the lack of a self sufficent energy policy expose the economy to ruin through blackmail?

Yes.


98 posted on 01/13/2006 9:52:55 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: buckalfa
Does our diminshed manafacturing capacity expose America to being dependent upon the goodwill of other countries for the supply of goods and materials needed to sustain our national defense?

Which cheap consumer goods that we buy from China have shut down which vital domestic defense capacities?

Does the lack of a self sufficent energy policy expose the economy to ruin through blackmail?

Yes. Open ANWR and build more nuke power plants now.

99 posted on 01/13/2006 9:53:58 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Stop associating with Commies and we'll stop mentioning that you associate with Commies.)
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To: Glenn

My paycheck was fairly stagnant and I was not satisfied with it. I went out and got another job with a 27% increase in pay.

Stop blaming everyone else and do something about it!


100 posted on 01/13/2006 9:55:07 AM PST by Tatze (I voted for John Kerry before I voted against him!)
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