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Making a case for ID and evolution in classrooms (Florida to censor science textbooks)
Sun Sentinal ^
| 12 Jan 06
| Alva James-Johnson
Posted on 01/12/2006 6:22:24 PM PST by gobucks
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And Superintendent Frank Till has said he would cut the page to eliminate the controversy if teachers pick the book.
Only 12 percent swallow the Darwin creation story hook line and sinker. Wow ... that is a real slap in the face to the nation's science teachers. Oh wait, it must not be their fault. 89 percent of us are just not evolved enough to 'get it'. But maybe there is another angle:
Frank Till would 'cut the page', he said....
Funny, but when you look at the states in which this debate has raged the loudest, an interesting pattern emerges: they have large numbers of Democrats. Georgia and Kansas make lots of headlines, too ... but lately it's the big swing states, and a Big Blue State that are getting all the Headlines: Ohio, PA, California, Fla, etc.
I think if I were a Republican, and I noticed the profound link between belief in Creationism, and adherence to Traditional Marriage, and how those two intersect decisively in favor w/ GOP voting preferences ....
Why, I think I would really be in favor of 'teaching the controversy' at the LEAST!
And if I were a democrat, self-preservation would dictate strong censorship tendancies. Hmmmmm....
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posted on
01/12/2006 6:22:26 PM PST
by
gobucks
To: gobucks
hEY,,,, let teachers in govt schools decide anything? they can't defend themselves, let alone science. They will let the fools of ID run right over them.
Tune in to John Stossels's 20/20 show to see how really stupid our educ system and the NEA union really is...on this Friday.
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posted on
01/12/2006 6:30:24 PM PST
by
Recovering Ex-hippie
(Oprah....STFU !! I am soooo sick of Oprah!)
To: gobucks
Only problem is....the dirty little secret is....they quit believing in survival of the fittest long ago. It wasn't defendable, so their position has "evolved" over the last few decades.
Guess that's consistent with their faith isn't it.
To: gobucks
If you've proven evolution and most people aren't convinced, is it really proven?If you're orbited the planet and most people think it's still flat, have you have proven it's not?
What kind of stupid argument is this?
Do we let public opinion decide what's scientific theory, fact, whatever, or not? 25% of Americans don't know where the Pacific Ocean is, and a slightly greater amount think spacecraft from other alien planets visit here all the time.
Nearly half think that Gore or Kerry would be a better President than our current one.
Shall we take a vote on whether the theory of gravity is real?
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posted on
01/12/2006 6:36:45 PM PST
by
Dog Gone
To: gobucks
Good quote from a recent
Science News, vol. 168 (Nos 26 & 27), p. 414:
What is intelligent design? It's the missing link between creationism and religious instruction masquerading as biology.
Bruce Bower
===> Placemarker <===
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posted on
01/12/2006 6:40:59 PM PST
by
Coyoteman
(I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
To: gobucks
The censorship is from the Creationists...from the Scopes trial and the anti-evolution laws, to the bulling of school administrators, science teachers, and book publishers, to not teach evolution, the central organizing idea of biology. Wherever Creationists have power and influence, they use it to eviscerate any information contrary to Fundamentalist notions.
How is this for a compromise: Allow science teachers to teach science, including evolution and the fact that the earth is older than 6,000 years. Children of Creationists don't have to take science classes that conflict with their beliefs, and will be allowed to use the time to go off-campus and attend Bible classes. Fair enough?
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posted on
01/12/2006 6:44:51 PM PST
by
MRMEAN
(Corruptisima republica plurimae leges. -- Tacitus)
To: ALWAYSWELDING
Only problem is....the dirty little secret is....they quit believing in survival of the fittest long ago.
Thanks for making the point... that science must accomodate new evidence and revise any theory which is in conflict with observed fact. A requirement ID most certainly does not carry.
Which is why it has no place in a science textbook.
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posted on
01/12/2006 6:45:53 PM PST
by
cdgent
To: Junior
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posted on
01/12/2006 6:48:29 PM PST
by
PatrickHenry
(Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
To: Dog Gone
Shall we take a vote on whether the theory of gravity is real?
We know that gravity exists. We also know that the theory of gravity about how or why gravity exists has changed over time and is still changing.
Just as we know the earth is a sphere and gravity exists, we know that fossils and DNA exist. The theory of evolution tries to explain the fossil and genetic evidence. It has changed from its inception as well and probably will change more.
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posted on
01/12/2006 6:49:50 PM PST
by
microgood
To: microgood
Yes, that's the nice things about scientific theories. They don't pretend to be a "fact" nor are they a belief.
They are an explanation or best current conclusion based on known facts.
Put a few trilobites next to a fossilized human skeleton in the same rock strata and theory will be totally shaken. But that will never happen.
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posted on
01/12/2006 7:01:57 PM PST
by
Dog Gone
To: gobucks
Censorship??
They must mean that ID or Creationism is cut out and prevented from being taught....
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posted on
01/12/2006 7:09:47 PM PST
by
RaceBannon
((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
To: RaceBannon
They must mean that ID or Creationism is cut out and prevented from being taught.... Hey, that's a good idea!
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posted on
01/12/2006 7:14:50 PM PST
by
Coyoteman
(I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: ALWAYSWELDING
Well, it HAS BEEN the survival of the fittest... until the New Deal and Great Society came along. And unsurprisingly, the level of fitness needed to survive diminished.
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posted on
01/12/2006 7:31:51 PM PST
by
GSlob
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To: cdgent
Thanks for making the point... that science must accomodate new evidence and revise any theory which is in conflict with observed fact. A requirement ID most certainly does not carry. ???? Are you kidding me? This is your answer?
ID is true that's why it doesn't change. Evolution is a flawed theory of men, and must change constantly to compensate for it's deficiencies in God's world.
To: GSlob
Well, it HAS BEEN the survival of the fittest... until the New Deal and Great Society came along. And unsurprisingly, the level of fitness needed to survive diminished.Good stuff
To: ALWAYSWELDING
ID is true that's why it doesn't change.
So you believe that common descent has occured?
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posted on
01/12/2006 8:43:09 PM PST
by
Dimensio
(http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
To: Sola Veritas
You need you slur detector adjustyed
Actually I think you will find most professed creationists are middle class WASPs with college degrees
Not likely. Professed Creationists make up 70% of white Evanglicals, but only 30& of white mainline Protestants and Catholics. And 15% of the secular (there's always a few)
OTOH only 27% of college grads are Creationist. So unless you want to claim that Evangelicals are heavilky overrepresented (and mainline Protestants and Catholics super-heavily under-represented) in college graduates, the numbers aren't there.
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posted on
01/12/2006 8:44:30 PM PST
by
Oztrich Boy
("What is the sense in 'atin' those 'oom you are paid to kill?" - Kipling)
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