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Kim Jong II disappears in China amid financial woes
Deutsche Presse-Agentur ^ | Jan 11, 2006, 15:38 GMT | Andreas Landwehr

Posted on 01/11/2006 10:16:24 PM PST by Royal Wulff

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To: patton

They do have a way of changing the carriages so that trains can pass from China to Russia. I assume they have the same provisions at the North Korean border with Russia.


21 posted on 01/11/2006 11:24:42 PM PST by Rocky (Air America: Robbing the poor to feed the Left)
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To: Rocky

How MIL Specs Live Forever

The US Standard railroad gauge (distance between the rails) is 4 feet, 8.5 inches. That's an exceedingly odd number. Why was that gauge used? Because that's the way they built them in England, and the US railroads were built by English expatriates.

Why did the English people build them like that? Because the first rail lines were built by the same people who built the pre-railroad tramways, and that's the gage they used.

Why did they use that gauge then? Because the people who built the tramways used the same jigs and tools that they used for building wagons, which used that wheel spacing.

Okay! Why did the wagons use that odd wheel spacing? Well, if they tried to use any other spacing the wagons would break on some of the old, long distance roads, because that's the spacing of the old wheel ruts.

So who built these old rutted roads? The first long distance roads in Europe were built by Imperial Rome for the benefit of their legions. The roads have been used ever since. And the ruts? The initial ruts, which everyone else had to match for fear of destroying their wagons, were first made by Roman war chariots. Since the chariots were made for or by Imperial Rome, They were all alike in the matter of wheel spacing.

Thus, we have the answer to the original questions. The United States standard railroad gauge of 4 feet, 8.5 inches derives from the original specification (Military Spec) for an Imperial Roman army war chariot. Mil Specs and bureaucracies live forever.

SO, the next time you are handed a specification and wonder what horse's ass came up with it, you may be exactly right. Because the Imperial Roman chariots were made to be just wide enough to accommodate the back-ends of two war horses.

Professor Tom O'Hare
Germanic Languages
University of Texas at Austin
Space-Age Addendum

The next time you see the Space Shuttle sitting on the launch pad, take a look at the two big booster rockets attached to the sides of the main fuel tank. These are solid rocket boosters, or SRBs. The SRBs are made by a company called Thiokol Propulsion, at their factory in Utah. The original engineering design for the SRBs called for them to be a bit fatter and a little shorter, but the SRBs had to be shipped by train from the factory to the launch site.

The railroad line from the factory passed through a tunnel in the mountains. The tunnel is only slightly wider than the railroad track, and the railroad track is about as wide as two horses' behinds.

So, a major design feature of what is arguably the world's most advanced transportation system was determined over 2000 years ago by the width of a horse's behind.

Ken Kuller


22 posted on 01/11/2006 11:32:30 PM PST by patton ("Hard Drive Cemetary" - forthcoming best seller)
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To: patton

Funny. It does make you wonder how many other modern systems are constrained by standards set hundreds or thousands of years ago.


23 posted on 01/11/2006 11:36:38 PM PST by Rocky (Air America: Robbing the poor to feed the Left)
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To: Rocky

Panamax - biggest boat that can get through the panama canal. Our nuclear aircraft carriers are designed around it.


24 posted on 01/11/2006 11:40:46 PM PST by patton ("Hard Drive Cemetary" - forthcoming best seller)
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To: Royal Wulff

Somebody mistook him for a Kewpie Doll at a casino in Macao and took him home?


25 posted on 01/11/2006 11:40:47 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (The Democratic Party-Jackass symbol, jackass leaders, jackass supporters.)
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To: patton

I've heard that story before (minus the space shuttle part). Always found it quite interesting... The Space Shuttle part only makes it more significant.


26 posted on 01/11/2006 11:58:58 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: Royal Wulff

He's looking for the "cute" clintonista of his dreams, Madeleine Halfbright. The couple fell in love some years ago when she visited him in No Korea and gave him financial aid in the amount of billions of dollars from her boss, comrade clintoon.

They are meeting in a secret location somewhere beyond the great wall.


27 posted on 01/12/2006 12:02:24 AM PST by goresalooza (Nurses Rock!)
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To: LegendHasIt

The tightest design constraint for new army vehicles is the c130 size limit...which exactly mirrors the size of railroad tunnels in austria through the alps...


28 posted on 01/12/2006 12:03:29 AM PST by patton ("Hard Drive Cemetary" - forthcoming best seller)
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To: saganite
Probably say those regions were now dangerously destabilized and it's Bush's fault...

He should have sent former President Jimmy Carter to broker an honest and fair deal.
29 posted on 01/12/2006 12:19:58 AM PST by carumba (The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho)
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To: patton
Checked the net about the Railroad / Roman Chariots / Space Shuttle Story... it appears to be false...

Check out this site for details...

Be careful passing around rumors. :) I love a good story too and I've fallen for some dooseys. It's good to check the validity.

Here's a lil from the site I mentioned...

Where did the four-foot, eight-and-a-half-inch standard originate? Gabriel says it was from a Englishman named George Stephenson. Carts on rails had been used in mines in England for years, but the width of the rails varied from mine to mine since they didn't share tracks. Stephenson was the one who started experimenting with putting a steam engine on the carts so there would be propulsion to pull them along. He had worked with several mines with differing gauges and simply chose to make the rails for his project 4-foot, eight inches wide. He later decided that adding another six inches made things easier. He was later consulted for constructing some rails along a roadway and by the time broader plans for railroads in Great Britain were proposed, there were already 1200 miles of his rails so the "Stephenson gauge" became the standard.

Interestingly, the 4-foot, eight-and-a-half inch width has not always been the standard in the U.S. According to the Encyclopedia of American Business History and Biography, at the beginning of the Civil War, there were more than 20 different gauges ranging from 3 to 6 feet, although the 4-foot, eight-and-a-half inch was the most widely used. During the war, any supplies transported by rail had to be transferred by hand whenever a car on one gauge encountered track of another gauge and more than 4,000 miles of new track was laid during the war to standardize the process. Later, Congress decreed that the 4-foot, eight-and-a-half inch standard would be used for transcontinental railway.

I'm not trying to ruin anyones fun... I'm just tired of being lied to lately... The Truth for everyone! :)

30 posted on 01/12/2006 12:24:42 AM PST by PureSolace (God save us all)
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To: Slings and Arrows

LOL! I just woke up and was catching up on today's events.

No excuse, I know.


31 posted on 01/12/2006 12:45:34 AM PST by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

Perhaps he's meeting with Elvis.


32 posted on 01/12/2006 3:34:49 AM PST by GOP_Proud ("Just like butt-ahh"... Toolbelt Diva)
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To: GOP_Proud

Only if Elvis wants to use him in a ventriloquist act: "Now watch as I eat this here peanut butter an' banana sandwich, an' Lil' Kimmy sings 'Love Me Tender.'"


33 posted on 01/12/2006 3:47:33 AM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (The Democratic Party-Jackass symbol, jackass leaders, jackass supporters.)
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To: ccmay
Not so easy if he had taken Supertrain!!!


34 posted on 01/12/2006 4:17:52 AM PST by xp38
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To: patton
The railroad line from the factory passed through a tunnel in the mountains. The tunnel is only slightly wider than the railroad track, and the railroad track is about as wide as two horses' behinds. Tunnels.....the nemesis. As my folks approached their golden years they stopped driving all the way to Florida each winter but would instead take the Auto-Train. This Amtrak marvel does not begin anywhere near NY where they live...it begins in Lawton VA. the reason?...the tunnels under the Potomac or Chesepeake Bay are to short for the double decker car carrier, cars. When they got real old, I tag teamed with my Brother with 2 cars from Long Island to VA and we take the second car back home together for a 12 hour round trip. My back is still stiff thinking of those trips, twice a year.
35 posted on 01/12/2006 4:25:15 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert Heinlein)
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To: Mike Darancette

hehe- Kim chi!


36 posted on 01/12/2006 4:27:18 AM PST by ovrtaxt (I looked for common sense with a telescope. All I could see was the moon of Uranus.)
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To: Royal Wulff

He could have stopped for a swim in the Benzene River?


37 posted on 01/12/2006 4:34:48 AM PST by wolfcreek
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To: Royal Wulff

Maybe he thinks a breakdown in North Korea is imminent. Or an offensive is, and he wants to be somewhere safe


38 posted on 01/12/2006 4:37:23 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
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To: dread78645
"Maybe he just stopped to play some golf. I hear he shoots in the low 30's"

That's usually true, except for his really good days when he nails a "hole-in-one" on every try. He's reaaalllly proud of all those times he has managed an 18 or 19 score..... he would join the professional tour except that he considers it demeaning to deal with so many capitalist pigs......
39 posted on 01/12/2006 9:32:44 AM PST by Enchante (Democrats: "We are ALL broken and worn out, our party & ideas, what else is new?")
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To: patton

which carriers are panamax? I know the constellation was, but most if not all of our modern carriers are WAY bigger than panamax.


40 posted on 01/12/2006 9:54:38 AM PST by WoofDog123
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