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CA: Issa backs Bilbray for Cunningham seat
San Diego Union Tribune ^ | 1/11/06 | Debbi Farr Baker

Posted on 01/11/2006 3:56:16 PM PST by NormsRevenge

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To: AuH2ORepublican

Wow! Good post. So Bilbray IS a scumbag liberal....
There's no substitute for the record and the facts.


61 posted on 01/11/2006 6:00:49 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

see post 54


63 posted on 01/11/2006 6:01:20 PM PST by SoCalPol (Cowards Cut and Run, Marines Never Do)
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To: Sunana

What color is the sky in your world ? Why do you and your buddies choose to ignore Bilbray's OWN liberal voting record ? I submit, ma'am, that is exactly YOUR type of attitude that has allowed California to turn 'Rat. Keep offering people NO discernable choices from the liberal 'Rats and act surprised when the real deal wins.


64 posted on 01/11/2006 6:02:36 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: SoCalPol
Bilbray wants to drive home border control and fiscal sanity in Washington.

Other candidates want to do the same thing. Why choose one that also is not a defender of 2nd amendment rights, is very liberal on environmental issues, etc.

65 posted on 01/11/2006 6:04:26 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: Sunana
Sounds like he may know a bit about the illegal immigration problem to me.

Which says absolutely NOTHING about what he proposes to do about it.

66 posted on 01/11/2006 6:05:36 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: SoCalPol
see post 54

So obviously Bilbray is a liar. I know this because I read post 49.

67 posted on 01/11/2006 6:06:03 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: calcowgirl

It just seems some people in this thread prefer to bury their heads and repeat falsehoods. Let's presume for a moment that Bilbray is the "great savior" on the immigration issue, how does that excuse his abhorant stands on all other important issues from economics to personal safety to basic morality and decency ?

Of course, my next question is, how much are the Bilbray and Issa camps PAYING these people to shill for them ?


68 posted on 01/11/2006 6:07:27 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

From your posting history and photos on your homepage,
not to sure of yourself are ya.
If I wasn't for Bilbray, after you and some of the others,
it would make me a supporter.


69 posted on 01/11/2006 6:13:23 PM PST by SoCalPol (Cowards Cut and Run, Marines Never Do)
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To: SoCalPol

This thread is hilarious!
Issa just said Bilbray gave up a cushy job as county supervisor and was the only Republican willing to stand up against Lynn Schenk. His 3 wins were real squeakers.
It took a visit from Darth Clinton himself [my term] to defeat him.

He says Bilbray has 6 years seniority over him [Issa], which would indeed kick in immediately.

If the goal is to find the most effective candidate, the 50th district voters have an excellent pick to choose from.


70 posted on 01/11/2006 6:17:41 PM PST by b9
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To: doodlelady; AuH2ORepublican
Bilbray's experience will enable him to hit the ground running with his seniority and be able to get more done.

Still touting the same thing, I see. It makes no sense, as was pointed out when you posted it before. Bilbray needs some new talking points for his campaign. How will someone gain seniority over the other Congresscritters(R) who have been in there fighting for the past few years. He wasn't a loyalist by any means then (as evidenced by his voting record posted upthread), why do you think they'll give him seniority now (thereby reducing the seniority of others). Why would they move this guy forward in line?

I think AuH2ORepublican said it better on a prior thread (in a post to you, doodlelady).

Doodlelady: "If elected, he would enter Congress as a senior member"

AuH2ORepublican: "Actually, he probably wouldn't. He would just have more seniority than someone sworn in on the same day, but since he'll be running on a special election, whoever gets elected will come in ranking 435th in the House. Sometimes the Speaker (or Minority Leader, as the case may be) will offer an ex-Congressman part or all of his old seniority if he runs, but in a heavily Republican district where Bilbray isn't needed to hold the seat I doubt that Hastert will offer anything to Bilbray---why would Hastert piss off the dozens of Republicans with less than 6 years of seniority who would be stepped over by Bilbray?"


71 posted on 01/11/2006 6:18:42 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

I just heard Issa 30 minutes ago explaining the seniority on Hedgecock. If elected, Bilbray has 6 years seniority over Issa.

Like I said. He's one of several excellent candidates for the lucky 50th district voters to choose from.


72 posted on 01/11/2006 6:22:53 PM PST by b9
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To: doodlelady

Exactly. These folks are so desperate they are
doing a fiction job on Bilbray's views.
Half a truth is the same as a lie.
Who is paying them to shill for those who can't win.


73 posted on 01/11/2006 6:25:52 PM PST by SoCalPol (Cowards Cut and Run, Marines Never Do)
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To: SoCalPol
"From your posting history and photos on your homepage, not to sure of yourself are ya."

My posting history ? Please elaborate. What exactly are you insinuating, sir ? Put up or shut up on your allegations.

"If I wasn't for Bilbray, after you and some of the others, it would make me a supporter."

Oh, so like your fellow liberals, you have an aversion to the truth of Bilbray's LIBERAL record ? Or is it you're just being paid by Bilbray and/or Issa to shill for them on this forum ? Things that make you go "HMMMMM..."

74 posted on 01/11/2006 6:29:09 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: doodlelady
"If the goal is to find the most effective candidate, the 50th district voters have an excellent pick to choose from."

Indeed, either Kaloogian or Bill Morrow. Accept no liberal RINO substitutes.

75 posted on 01/11/2006 6:30:25 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: SoCalPol
"Exactly. These folks are so desperate they are doing a fiction job on Bilbray's views."

So you are now denying Bilbray's ACTUAL VOTING RECORDS ? You are now in moonbat territory.

77 posted on 01/11/2006 6:32:52 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I spend my Sundays with other freepers and protest warriors
counter attacking the code pinkos.
I have been with JR and over 50 freepers at events.
I work for the conservative cause I hope you will also.


78 posted on 01/11/2006 6:39:01 PM PST by SoCalPol (Cowards Cut and Run, Marines Never Do)
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To: doodlelady; calcowgirl

"If elected, Bilbray has 6 years seniority over Issa."



The general rule is that people who leave Congress and then return start off with 0 seniority. Sometimes the Speaker (or, if the member is in the minority, the Minority Leader) will make an exception and let the member keep his old seniority, but that usually occurs only when the candidate has been heavily recruited by the party because they need him in order to win the seat; as I've said before, I think it would be a bad idea for Hastert to give Bilbray his seniority back. But one thing that is abundantly clear is that, even if Bilbray got his old seniority back, he would *not* have 6 years of seniority over Issa, he would have 6 years of seniority, period. Since Issa was first elected to the House in November 2000 (coincidentally, the day that Bilbray lost his seat) and sworn in in January 2001, Issa has only a bit more than 5 years of seniority, so Bilbray would have a bit more seniority than Issa (and other GOP Representatives first elected in 2000) if he was elected and somehow got his seniority back, but certainly not 6 years of seniority over Issa.


79 posted on 01/11/2006 6:40:13 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: SoCalPol
These folks are so desperate they are doing a fiction job on Bilbray's views.

Please specify what you consider to be "fiction" that was posted on this thread.

80 posted on 01/11/2006 6:42:37 PM PST by calcowgirl
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