Posted on 01/11/2006 3:56:16 PM PST by NormsRevenge
LOL. But he got as high as an 85 rating on the National Environmental Scorecard
from the League of Conservation Voters (LCV). Does that count? /s
"Yes, the issues we are dealing with today are the ones he
is big time conservative."
Being a gun-grabber and favoring infanticide makes him a big time Conservative ? Give us a break, please.
Those are called "liberals."
Now, now, how dare you besmirch the good name of that paragon of Conservatism, Brian Bilbray ? How dare you point out his voting record !
*cough*
*cough*
;-)
"His record: Bilbray voted... for a minimum wage increase."
Ah, goodie, someone who doesn't even understand the basic concept of economics. Yup, this is definitely a Conservative All-Star.
Well, I would've said kool-aid drinkers, but I thought that might be too gratuitous. ;-)
If Bilbray was running in Susan Davis's 53rd congressional district (which he represented from 2005 to 2001), he would be perfectly acceptable, since his pro-abortion, anti-gun and pro-environmental-extremism votes would be a small price to pay for his good votes on other issues in an *overwhelmingly liberal district* in which President Bush was held to only 38% in 2004 and in which a conservative Republican *could not* win. (BTW, I don't think Bilbray would be a good candidate in Filner's 51st CD, which is majority Hispanic and in which Bush improved his performance from 41% in 2000 to 46% in 2004 and where a socially conservative, economically moderate Hispanic Republican would be our best bet.)
However, in the solidly Republican 50th CD, in which President Bush got 55% in 2004, there is absolutely no good reason to nominate a candidate who is liberal on social issues. We should nominate a solid conservative, such as Kaloogian; in such a heavily Republican district, there is no need for a Bilbray-type moderate who can get votes from Kerry voters. My fear is that the conservative vote will be split between several conservative candidates and allow a social liberal like Bilbray to slip in with 35% or so.
In case anyone doubts Bilbray's pro-abortion, anti-gun, pro-environmental-extremist, and otherwise socially liberal voting record, here are some of his votes from 2000:
National Monument Designations HR 701 (Roll Call Vote No. 164).
The House defeated an amendment that would have prohibited the use of the Antiquities Act to designate national monuments without congressional approval.
The bill was defeated (160-265)
ACU supported this bill
This member voted in opposition to ACU's position
Land Conservation - Local Control HR 701 (Roll Call Vote No. 170).
The House defeated an amendment allowing local governments to veto proposed land acquisition projects under the Land and Water Conservation Fund within 90 days of notification.
The bill was defeated (187-238)
ACU opposed this bill
This member voted in opposition to ACU's position
National Endowment for the Arts HR 45 (Roll Call Vote No. 282).
The House defeated an amendment that would decrease appropriations for the National Endowment for the Arts by $2 million.
The bill was defeated (152-256)
ACU opposed this bill
This member voted in opposition to ACU's position
Gun Safety HR 4690 (Roll Call Vote No. 324).
The House defeated an amendment prohibiting the Justice Department from implementing the settlement between the federal government and gun manufacturer Smith & Wesson under which S&W would manufacture only safe guns.
The bill was defeated (196-201)
ACU supported this bill
This member voted in opposition to ACU's position
Taxpayer Funded Abortions HR 4811 (Roll Call Vote No. 396).
The House defeated an amendment designed to overturn the Mexico City policy which restricts U.S. funding of organizations directly or indirectly performing abortions in a foreign country.
The bill was defeated (206-221)
ACU supported this bill
This member voted in opposition to ACU's position
Since I live in a county near the Mexican border and you don't, I am more concerned with how a person will deal with this problem.
You've already been told your pal is a liberal, don't try to poop in my rice krispies and call it fudge. Just because I don't live by the border doesn't mean my county doesn't have an illegal immigration problem. Get a clue.
Howard Kaloogian is strongly conservative on border security and battling illegal immigration. From his campaign website:
Illegal Immigration
Unlike some politicians, I've never wavered in my position: WE MUST SECURE OUR BORDERS.
I am a constitutionalist, who believes that the federal government is to be limited to the few powers that have been delegated to it. Foremost is defending the country. That means that we must secure our borders and stop the unchecked invasion taking place through illegal immigration.
We are a nation of immigrants, my father immigrated to this country. I don't have any problem with people who want to come here, to make for themselves and their family a better life.
But we our a nation ruled by laws, and people who wish to immigrate to this country need to do so according to the rules. There is something faulty in the logic of those who defend illegal aliens, when they fail to recognize the first act that these individuals have made as "Americans" is to flaunt our laws and engage in a criminal act of sneaking across our borders illegally.
We have a serious problem that is not being addressed when millions of illegal aliens annually sneak in to our country without ever intending to become Americans so they don't comply with our laws or assimilate into our culture. It only took 19 terrorist to bring the country to a halt on 9/11. Most everyone believes that the illegal aliens come here well intentioned, but that does not excuse or pardon their illegal act of coming into the country without permission.
A nation that doesn't secure its borders isn't sovereign. We learned in Iraq that securing the borders was necessary for securing that nation. Why can't we learn that same lesson here in the United States? After all, nobody can guarantee that another 19 terrorists aren't among the millions who are sneaking into our country each and every year.
While I am admirer of President Bush on many levels, he and I have some very different outlooks on how best to deal with illegal immigration.
I have strongly opposed the President's illegal immigration proposals because they have amounted to amnesty on the installment plan. I think it compounds the problem by encouraging more people to attempt to enter our country. In the 1986 amnesty the promise was that this would solve the problem once and for all. It covered 3 million people, and since then our illegal immigration problem got worse - today it is estimated that there are up to 13 million illegal immigrants in this country. Clearly an amnesty solves nothing. Furthermore, it is unworkable. It only applies to those illegal immigrants who have jobs. And, it depends on voluntary compliance on the part of both the employer and the illegal immigrant. Finally, it is morally wrong. We are indeed a nation of immigrants and a country with the most generous system of immigration in the world. Millions of people have applied legally, gone through the process and become naturalized citizens. My family was among them. It is not right to allow others to “cut in line” ahead of those who are obeying our laws.
Tom Tancredo Endorsed Howard Kaloogian for U.S. Senate in 2004
Kaloogian Leads Anti-Illegal Immigration Rally at Republican Convention
Tom Tancredo - Howard Kaloogian - Melanie Morgan
Howard Kaloogian led a rally to OPPOSE giving drivers licenses to illegal aliens. Congressman Tom Tancredo (Republican - Colorado) flew into California to join the rally. There, Tancredo endorsed Howard Kaloogian for U.S. Senate. The woman on the right is Melanie Morgan of KSFO 560 AM and Chair of Move America Forward
Kaloogian Endorsed by Prop. 187 Author (Ron Prince)
Howard is proud to have been endorsed for U.S. Congress by Ron Prince (the author of the "Save Our State" initiative - Prop. 187). Proposition 187 would have blocked the government from taking taxpayer funds to provide welfare and other subsidies for illegal aliens.
http://www.kaloogianforcongress.com/aboutus.asp?id06=115&par06=104
I have a clue, one reason I wouldn't live in Tenn.
I worked in the Reagan compaign. My idea of a conservative.
To many folks on FR who are the type who voted for Periot
and Buchanan and gave us Carter and Clinton
Roger Hedgecock has Darrell Issa and Brian Bilbray on right now.
Bilbray wants to drive home border control and fiscal sanity in Washington.
Issa says he's not endorsing Bilbray as a slap to any other candidate ... Bilbray's experience will enable him to hit the ground running with his seniority and be able to get more done.
You'd better thank the people of Tennessee, we kept this country from a Gore Presidency. You'd best remember that, pal.
"I worked in the Reagan compaign. My idea of a conservative."
Then why are you humping for a LIBERAL RINO ?
"To many folks on FR who are the type who voted for Periot and Buchanan and gave us Carter and Clinton"
What relevence does that have to the discussion at hand ? We're not talking about Buchanan or "Periot" (sic). We're talking about Bilbray's record, and it is as clear as a bell. He is out of step with the Conservative voters of the 50th district, period.
The problem is that Issa cannot be trusted. I know his endorsement of Bilbray certainly raised my eyebrows and got me to figuring that Bilbray must be another scumbag "moderate".
Bilbray wants to drive home border control and fiscal sanity in Washington.
That must disapoint the third party folks. They don't like
conservatives.
"Issa says he's not endorsing Bilbray as a slap to any other candidate ... Bilbray's experience will enable him to hit the ground running with his seniority and be able to get more done."
Bilbray has been out of Congress for 5 years, nearly as long as he was in. The "seniority" issue no longer has any merit.
LOL. I'm surprised I didn't get accused of attacking him. ;-)
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