Tax Reform? Dream On

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[Man50D]

Tax protestors usually end up in jail. I think Women's suffrage was waged under entirely dofferent circumstances. Women were WILLING to protest. Tax protestors usually end up in jail. Women were backed by a 'modern' European movement in Women's rights. American taxpayers see Ireland and Russia with simplified tax structure and a few others but those economies are still tiny. Demographics will eventually kill the US Tax monster, that would be about 15 years off.

Tax evaders not protesters end up in jail. Fair Tax supporters do not advocate tax evasion. Protesting by itself does not result in passing an amendment. Women were much more organized then creating a few protests. No tax structure is as simplified as the Fair Tax. Regardless of that fact, tax structures in foreign countries is irrelevant. The last thing we should do is follow other countries, especially Europe. They use a VAT tax structure and there is nothing about a VAT. Our founding fathers left Europe because they realized those governments are a debacle. We need to take the lead.

[Hostage]

I know I know but you might be interested to learn that the IRS looks at Tax Evaders and Tax Protestors as cut from the same cloth.

Fair Tax enthusiasts are viewed as whackjob dreamers.

Like I said it will be demographics that compel changes.

I already see some rumblings of a backlash against government largesse. But until it is articulated in a way that people can vote on it, it will mean nothing.

Freepers here know well that the present system is following the old Roman paradigm of 'Bread and Circuses' to keep the masses mollified.

In today's world 'Bread and Circuses' takes the form of 'Pizza and Football'. Pizza and Football will suppress any real zeal for anything like a Fair Tax.

That said, I have reviewed both Consumption Tax and Flat Tax and without doubt the Consumption Tax wins the debate hands down. But it is a debate about an issue that is moot.

So you think the Seahawks will take the SuperBowl?

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[Man50D]

know I know but you might be interested to learn that the IRS looks at Tax Evaders and Tax Protestors as cut from the same cloth. Fair Tax enthusiasts are viewed as whackjob dreamers. Like I said it will be demographics that compel changes. I already see some rumblings of a backlash against government largesse. But until it is articulated in a way that people can vote on it, it will mean nothing. Freepers here know well that the present system is following the old Roman paradigm of 'Bread and Circuses' to keep the masses mollified. In today's world 'Bread and Circuses' takes the form of 'Pizza and Football'. Pizza and Football will suppress any real zeal for anything like a Fair Tax. That said, I have reviewed both Consumption Tax and Flat Tax and without doubt the Consumption Tax wins the debate hands down. But it is a debate about an issue that is moot. Fair Tax enthusiasts are viewed as whackjob dreamers.

Explain to me how "whackjob dreamers" such as myself, are able to have both the House and Senate consider the Fair Tax Act (HR25 and S25 respectively). People are letting their politicians know they are fed up with the current tax code in many ways you are obviously not aware. I can't speak for all Freepers because I haven't polled all of them and neither have you so you can't also speak on their behalf. The only people who are satisfied with the status quo are those with a defeatist attitude. My experience tells me more people are not satisfied with their highly taxed Pizza.

Mike Holmgren doesn't do well in the playoffs, the Patriots are coming on strong and Indianapolis will bounce back. My guess is an AFC team will win it all.

[reelfoot]

Republicans really dropped the ball on this. Tax reform should be near the top of the agenda, after immigration reform and spending reductions. I'll pass on the larded-up transportation bills, Congress, and take a national sales tax or flat tax instead, thank you.

[Hostage]

I can't explain how a 'whackjob dreamer' can have anyone consider the Fair Tax because I am a whackjob dreamer myself (according to those that think I am whacked for getting high on Fair Tax fantasy).

Think you have to ask a non-whacked (or is that whacky?) non-dreamer why they consider us whacked for thinking of a fair or fairer tax.

Ditto on the Patriots. Don't think Seahawks have enough killer instinct to take it all the way.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Yep. Too many sheeple dumbed-down over their precious mortgage deductions or their magical "refund" they pay H & R Block hundreds of dollars to get back. Fricking idiots....people need to understand just how bad the tax code is killing America. Wonder why jobs are going overseas? Factories are closing up? Cities are crumbling? The byzantine income tax code is mostly responsible for all of America's problems, including crime.