Posted on 01/10/2006 7:43:06 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
Here is a list of the US's major trading partners, as provided by the Heritage Foundation -
Canada 23.2%
Mexico 13.5%
Japan 6.6%
UK 4.4%
China 4.2%
Germany 3.8%
Note no India, Burma, Vietnam or Dominician Republic. And again, you're confusing low wages with slavery.
Of course, you protectionist nuts will even say you can't compete with Canada. Pat Buchanan said so in his "Family Farm Bill of Rights" speech when he got worked up about cheap Canadian food. So we'll treat your statement about slavery as what it is - a red herring, and a lame excuse.
Ivan
Not knowing more detail than what you've provided I'd say that, under these circumstances, your company should absolutely exit the industry and allow the larger and more efficient operators to fill the void. The fact is, agriculture today is dominated by large co-op's with tremendous efficiencies. We've had to do this to remain competitive. Unfortunately, the welfare you defend is used by these co-op's to undercut small and medium sized producers and, eventually, drive them out of business or buy their operations.
the every day farmer; who, unlike other businesses, has minimal control over the prices paid for product, absolutely no ability to pass along increased input costs to the buyer
Please, the plight of the poor farmer is hardly going to earn any sympathy when the average family farm has a household income 17% higher than the national average and a cost of living that is 10%-40% lower than urban areas. Farms fail at only one-sixth the rate of non-farm businesses, and only 4.5 percent of farms have enough debt to be considered vulnerable to bankruptcy.
I guess it's easier to blame others though, isn't it?
..all while watching the "value-added" purchasers of his product raking in the millions...do get back to me.
So, you're in the food business. So am I. Maybe you can show me which of these value added food manufacturers makes extraordinary profits and exactly what those margins are. I ask because it's well known that the American food industry is highly competitive and generates lower, yet consistent, margins when compared to other industries. When comparing net revenue as a percentage of sales for all industries, food manufacturers rank well below the national average. Food retailing and distribution are even lower. So, who's making all those obscene profits?
please do tell which "crops" Americans are supposed to focus on...
If the government would just get out of the way and stop interfering, the markets would sort this question out in very short order.
Brazil and Burma don't figure as the major import trading partners of the United States. As the example I pointed out shows, the slavery issue you bring up is a red herring - you people don't even like imports from Canada if it doesn't suit you.
Ivan
I said SOME of the biggest "trading partners",and included concrete examples of countries using slave labor and human trafficking.
And even if some of these "trading partners" are not the biggest, a society with an abhorrance to slavery should not trade with them. But the WTO says we must or we will be violating their rules.
Trying to diminish the fact that globally,slavery is on the rise due to the fraudulently named "free trade" system won't fly.
This is actually what has been agreed.
It doesn't eliminate protectionism - it caps tariffs at certain levels, and turns agricultural quotas to tariffs.
Trying to diminish the fact that globally,slavery is on the rise due to the fraudulently named "free trade" system won't fly.
None of the articles you posted say that free trade has led to an increase in slavery. The nation that first proposed free trade, namely Britain, was also one of the first to eliminate it, and actively work to destroy it with the Royal Navy.
Ivan
Yes. She agrees that mental illness is a terrible thing and we are both praying you make a full and rapid recovery.
The words "psycho nutbag" spring to mind when it comes to you. I never said we'd achieved free trade. The process of taking barriers down is continuing. People like you stand in the way, in fact, you want to throw this in reverse. For reasons which I've posted, this is an extremely stupid and damaging point of view.
Ivan
OK, now I'm laughing at you. The American Revolution was fought over an important point - due to the costs of the Seven Years War, in which the British kicked the French out of North America and India, the British government demanded the American colonies pay taxes to pay off the debt associated with that war. If we had asked rather than demanded, it is likely that the United States would be British still. Instead, that provoked the saying, "No taxation without representation" - i.e., the Americans were not going to pay taxes to a body in which they had no say, namely Parliament.
Nothing to do with free trade. It was an important point of principle, regarding representative government and taxation. Your psychotic nonsense only serves to distract from a very important historical lesson. I hope your fellow Americans learn what an utter fruitcake you are by you erroneous interpretation.
Ivan
If you seriously think China is communist these days, you haven't heard of Deng Xioping's maxim, "To get rich is glorious". Secondly, as for the slavery - you have totally failed to prove a direct link between free trade and slavery. In fact, let's put it this way - if countries cannot participate in the world trading system, are marginalised and poor, they are more likely to have slavery or extremist governments: countries with outright slavery like Niger and Mauritania have no economy and little trade to speak of. Countries with truly operating communism like North Korea have policies you would like - Kim Il-Sung committed them to a policy called "juche", which means "self-reliance". They shut out the world. And look where it got them.
Ivan
We knew, based upon her previous erroneous interpretations. It's nice to know how her ignorance is recognized around the world.
Didn't the WTO whack him for saying that? LOL!!!
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It's like McKinley is talking to you from the grave.
Why don't you explain to us what "multilateral trade" is.
AS for "free trade" link to slavery? When did the American people lose their right to NOT trade with a nation that engages in slavery? When the WTO was created.
If you don't know what it is, then you're not fit to comment on it.
AS for "free trade" link to slavery? When did the American people lose their right to NOT trade with a nation that engages in slavery? When the WTO was created.
I see you're one of those people who believe that economic sanctions actually work. So you're over there with the Democrats thinking we should have given sanctions on Iraq more time.
Do keep talking. We now know that you'll attach yourself to any outrageous proposition to avoid admitting your complete, total and utter ignorance.
Ivan
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