Posted on 01/10/2006 7:43:06 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
She has no source. Again.
As if any of your other posts actually contained facts. So out of whose orifice did you pull that made up fact?
My feelings are hurt. You are calling me a name and you didn't ping me on it.
Hello? He asked you a direct question and is waiting for a response. It's not his fault you cannot keep track of which questions from whom you are ignoring today.
--Charlie Daniels
Any luck on finding a citizen who isn't also a consumer?
Great song all the way around. I love Charlie.
Hedge-
Don't you have something more productive to do such as watching some paint dry instead of trying to talk sense with some of these rectal/crainial inversion types?
You're repeating a tired old mantra that the protectionist loons stick to when they run out of ideas.
I bet you're a complete moron.
There were some who wanted to trade with the Soviets. We should trade and help the people of the Soviet Union they said lest we play into the hands of the Soviet hardliners.
We did not trade, the Soviets remained a nuke threat and they financed proxy wars as they encouraged their "wars of liberation" (Viet Nam for example).
They had no real economy. They collapsed. We won.
Much was said about how President Reagan drove them into bankruptcy. Their economy could not support a military to match ours.
I believe that that is reasonably accurate. Our trade is of great value to the Chi-coms militarily IMO.
MAD helped stop the probably of nuke war with the Soviets.
The Chi-coms, from Mao to this day, have always posed a simple question, "We can afford to lose [insert population of U.S. here], how many can you afford to lose?"
IMO the Chi-coms saw what MAD did to the Soviets. IMO they will not back down.
They will support all our enemies like the Soviets did but they have the resources. The Soviets tried to get into our hemisphere but failed except for Cuba. They just did not have the resources. They could barely afford Cuba.
The Chi-coms apparently are doing much better on all fronts plus unlike the Cold War days there is no stigma to being pals with Chinese Communist tyrants.
IMO.
I tend to agree.
There are some 800 million citizens outside of the Chi-coms' special economic zones. There are a reported 60,000+ cases of clashes between citizens and authorities every year.
There is a "floating" population of unemployed estimated at 100 million people. That's besides the normal official unemployment.
Chi-com banks' nonperforming "loans" finance worthless Mao-era "enterprises" lest millions more become unemployed and real trouble develops.
Now, you'd think that with that much work to do to "raise boats" they'd make it a priority rather than expanding worldwide and building a military to confront us.
But today -- and this gets back "free trade" with developing countries and socialism -- it seems that these "developing" countries refuse to build an economy to provide opportunities for all their citizens then go forth into the world once they've proved themselves.
I put India in that category also.
Instead the "plan" is to take from developed countries and give to the "developing countries."
The "free traders" of both the conservatives and the New Democrat Third Way "progressives" acknowledge that it takes away from American workers. Gotta break them eggs, ya know, if we're going make global "progress."
The conservatives say that no American has a right to a job, jobs is jobs, and there will be high-payin' jobs created for all -- just you wait and see.
The "progessives" agree but argue that government help should be available for Americans who lose their jobs.
As I have said many times, the Chi-coms' revolution and great leaps upon the backs of tens of millions of Chinese killing them were all contemporaneous events for me.
Where have they changed except to implement Deng's version of Lenin's New Economic Plan to sucker useful idiots in to finance and build "socialism with Chinese characters?"
Here the "free traders" plan runs amuck and could get many of us killed, certainly it makes our military's job a mite more difficult.
IMO BTW, there's a big difference between "free trade" and free trade with our normal Asian and European partners. Free trade is good. I don't know of anyone against it.
Well, yeah that too. "Cheap" migrant labor. Remittances are critical for many "developing" countries.
As I recall the WTO is moving beyond trade and could be in the "services trade" and "social justice" business soon.
That's the plan also. Fold the ILO into the WTO, I bet. We're already conditioned to bow to the WTO.
I noticed you didn't answer the question. Compared to the USSR which had tanks and troops in the middle of Europe, how does the threat of China today compare to that? And what do you mean China will not back down? You think they'll launch a nuclear first strike on us?
They will support all our enemies like the Soviets did but they have the resources. The Soviets tried to get into our hemisphere but failed except for Cuba.
That's funny. I guess Grenada and Nicaragua were in a different hemisphere? What about Chile? That was a close one. What about Eastern Europe? Are they friendly now? Were they 20 years ago? Are there more democracies around the world now, or 20 years ago?
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