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Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal ^ | 1006 | Chris Mooney

[RadioAstronomer]

Fair enough

[MHalblaub]

I was referring on creation story "s"ellers.

To fund a church is one of the best type of company you can have. Ron Hubbard had that idea, too.

Another activist judge!

[Just mythoughts]

Genesis describes two different days of creation. The first is called the sixth day, the second day of creation is after the day of rest, the 7th day, wherein there was NO man to till the ground. Note that each creation day was described as GOOD, what we find is that it did not stay good.

Now Peter says that a day with the Lord is as a thousand years to us.....

That Flood was for a specific purpose, the purpose only applied to a specific few. Now I do realize that there is that word "whole" earth being flooded, but was it the "whole" known earth where the daughters of Adam resided?

Personally speaking, given the horticulture of an olive tree, and no miracle planting described, how a green leaf could appear in the given time after a complete destruction that a global flood would cause, causes a question in my mind.

Further Christ Himself pointed to the Flood as being a sign of his return and it did not have to do with a water deluge, rather the activity going on that brought forth the flood.

Now it is plausible that when it says that two of all flesh were brought into the ark that is exactly to whom it is discussing.

I have not been convinced exactly what took place regarding the amount of acreage that was flooded or who all were on the ark outside of Noah and his family. Noah and his family were the lineage through which Christ was to come, as all things point to Christ and there are a whole lot of us who do not fit into that lineage that believe Him to be Saviour to all whom will.

[PatrickHenry]

I like the layout.

[Junior]

Thanks. I wanted to do something different.

[Mamzelle]

Good grief. Someone ask these debutantes for a waltz!

[b_sharp]

"Who says that increasing height is to an evolutionary advantage? At 5'4", I can fly coach without my knees stiffening up, which is more often useful to me than being able to reach the top shelf without standing on something."

My knees stiffen up in restaurants, theaters, and many cars. I hate having my feet dangle over the edge of the bed so I'm forced to buy extra long beds. Sometimes I wish I had detachable legs.

As far as I know the only advantage to being tall is in playing basketball and football.

My son may not have inherited my height, but he is lucky enough to have inherited my wife's intelligence. It really is hell being the least intelligent in the house. :(

[<1/1,000,000th%]

It's OK. I've got you covered.

My oldest daughter is 6'1". My son is 6'7". My youngest daughter is 5'9" and still growing.

My cat is still very tiny but she's 11 years old and has plenty of attitude.

[longshadow]

Beware the "Princess of Paranoia" placemarker

[b_sharp]

"The odds are High?

Yes.

"Where then is intelligent life besides Earth?

You misunderstand the argument. The argument is the probability of the existence of a planet circling a star, with the same energy output as Sol, at ~93 million miles radius and circled by a moon or moons that affect the tides equal to Luna. Your probability assertion is based on the premise that only this particular planet in this particular solar system in this particular galaxy out of the billions that could exist could be the home of humanity. The correct premise is that Earth is not a special planet, simply the one that had the necessary conditions for us to inhabit.

The difference in probability is similar to, (but not exact) the difference in probability between blindly picking a single green painted coin out of a bucket of unpainted coins and picking a unpainted coin out of the same bucket.

"Where is life? You are going to have a baby. But you did not grow one out of the Earth. It is not evolving into another being altogether.

If you believe that the only way we can come to the conclusion that we evolved from other animal precursors is by literally reproducing the sequence of organisms then you have just removed all science and all history, including the Bible from trusted sources. You have also ignored one of humanity's great abilities, the ability to observe, analyze, calculate and draw conclusions from insufficient or incomplete information.

"And where are all those missing links between what the dinos were and what they became. If they went extinct that mean they died off. SO how can they have evolved if they no longer existed?

We have many transitional fossils for many lineages, including dinosaur to bird.

Your misunderstanding of evolution is quite evident in your second and third sentences. You also make a logical error. You assume that the only way for an organism to disappear from the fossil record is to die out. There is a simpler means than extinction; if a species evolves into another species with a different name then the original species no longer exists under its original name, it in effect disappears. However this is not what happened with dinos and birds. The dinos, which were not an amorphous group by any means, had a large subgroup called Theropods from which the birds evolved. Only a small subpopulation of the Theropods actually evolved into what we now call birds, the others evolved into other dinosaurs and eventually became extinct. BTW, many consider birds to be extant dinosaurs so the dinos did not go completely extinct.

"Almost 80% of the US believe in God.

Which is totally irrelevant to the veracity of the ToE.

[b_sharp]

Yes, thank you.

[b_sharp]

"My oldest daughter is 6'1". My son is 6'7". My youngest daughter is 5'9" and still growing.

Lordy, what the heck you feeding them kids?

"My cat is still very tiny but she's 11 years old and has plenty of attitude.

My 10 year old cat is the size of a large kitten and so full of *attitude* we had to have *all* her claws removed. I was getting tired of being scratched and bitten, now I just get bitten.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

Lordy, what the heck you feeding them kids?

American beef and potatoes. Plus lots of fruits and vegetables. ;)

I've convinced the kids that chicken is a vegetable. The wife is not amused.

[js1138]

Also alarmed, at the looming theocracy?

You don't find me in that crowd. I grew up in the 50s and went to a church affiliated college. I'm not personally offended by a touch of religion in school. I just don't want nonscience taught in sciences classes.

I only mention theocracy when someone brings up the good old days and tries to argue that people are better behaved when government supports religion. Given a choice, I would want a completely secular government.

[dread78645]

You really have seen the Flying Spaghetti Monster!? RAMAN!!!

Another soul touched His Noodly Appendage!
Ramen, brother.

[dread78645]

What's also interesting is that until a couple of years ago, Harun Yahya rejected Intelligent Design in favor of the fundamentalist Islamic creation myth. Since then, they've gotten with the creationist program and are pushing ID.

"You are permitted in time of great danger to walk. with the Devil until you have crossed the bridge.”

[highball]

I've convinced the kids that chicken is a vegetable. The wife is not amused.

LOL!

I'm planning on teaching my unborn son or daughter that Count Basie and Art Pepper are "children's music" after he/she's born....

[b_sharp]

"I've convinced the kids that chicken is a vegetable. The wife is not amused."

ROTFLMAO!!!

Chicken is my second favourite 'meat' after good Canadian (Saskatchewan) beef. Not that wimpy warm weather American stuff.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

Good choices!

Hope that works out.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

We eat a lot of chicken too.

But steak off the grill is still number one.

I grilled steaks for the wife every week while she was pregnant. In the winter here north of Chicago, it's hard to get the grill going even when I used gasoline.