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Next-generation DVD format war frustrates retailers
Reuters ^ | 1/8/06 | Franklin Paul

Posted on 01/08/2006 3:18:20 PM PST by wagglebee

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I have several hundred DVDs and I buy more every month, it looks like I may have to buy two new DVD players to be able to play the new ones.
1 posted on 01/08/2006 3:18:21 PM PST by wagglebee
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So does that mean that PCs and laptops that have DVD
players and writers be will obsolete also?

And you would have to buy a new external DVD?

2 posted on 01/08/2006 3:23:51 PM PST by apackof2 (You can stand me up at the gates of hell, I'll stand my ground and I won’t back down)
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Umm? how about multiformat Dvd Players? How hard is that, they do it with burners all the time. I sell the top of the line multiformat burner/reader right now for $69.00 and it burns and reads everything thats currently out there. I home unit that would have multiformat wouldnt be a big deal to make, and im sure thats the way they are going to go. It will be expensive at first and like all things it will become dirt cheap. I paid $600.00 for my first DVD player in 1997, can get one for $19.00 bucks if you look hard enough.
3 posted on 01/08/2006 3:25:13 PM PST by Pimpmygop (The right way is not always the nice way!)
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I predict that in 2-3 years an improved blu-ray disk will be available with twice the capacity of the current one. I just don't believe that blu-ray has had enough development at this time to be considered a mature product. It's possible that the new machines would read both old and new blu-ray disks.
4 posted on 01/08/2006 3:26:55 PM PST by webboy45
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What's more, many will chose not to buy any device, instead waiting for one format to win.

Count me in among this group... permanently.

We have seen enough of this in the past so that only the idiot, or the fool with more money than good sense, will continue to play that losing game.

5 posted on 01/08/2006 3:28:28 PM PST by Publius6961 (The IQ of California voters is about 420........... .............cumulatively)
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If it's Sony, it will go the way of their Beta tapes.


6 posted on 01/08/2006 3:28:32 PM PST by netmilsmom (God blessed me with a wonderful husband.)
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HD DVD, Blu-Ray - who cares? I mean, you're talking about real esoteric stuff to most consumers who would like to see affordable HDTV displays and digital tv receivers. I'm not shelling out $800 to watch tv in the bedroom, yet no one has addressed this yet.

Portable digital televisions would also be a nice thing to see on the market. A large portion of the population has LCD screens in their cars for entertaining the kids, yet getting a digital television receiver setup in a vehicle is still a thousand dollar proposition.

They're getting well ahead of the technology curve and that's what is sagging the market. Most everyone in the US will have to buy new televisions or adapters in the coming year to be compatible with the digital television initiative yet most manufacturers can't seem to find the interest in producing these devices.
7 posted on 01/08/2006 3:28:39 PM PST by kingu
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I will make the safe prediction that the lower-priced one will prevail, so long as the performance is adequate. This has been the rule for 30 years now...


8 posted on 01/08/2006 3:31:15 PM PST by Publius6961 (The IQ of California voters is about 420........... .............cumulatively)
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So what happens to the "old" (current) DVD format? Anyone happen to know how the current format plays on HDTV? I didn't mind spending $$ to replace my VHS tapes with DVD (well worth it), but don't want to update my collection every time a new technology rolls out.


9 posted on 01/08/2006 3:32:35 PM PST by rbg81
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There's a ton of info lost because it's on old formats, such as 16mm film. There are speeches by Eisenhower possibly lost to posterity simply because there are few players for the 2" wide Quadruplex video tape.

Where's the Rosetta Stone for future archaeologists?

10 posted on 01/08/2006 3:32:46 PM PST by P.O.E. (Liberalism is the opiate of the elite classes.)
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I have probably 100 dvd's that I've watched once and rarely every again. I can watch pay per view HD movies that look and sound great. I would prefer to bypass the hardward and go directly to pay per view with someone who has a library like Netflix. (Netflix is my main source of movies.)

I will not buy hardware until this is sorted out. I will not get burned by this.


11 posted on 01/08/2006 3:32:59 PM PST by tje
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So does that mean that PCs and laptops that have DVD players and writers be will obsolete also?

I suppose the answer is "yes", but only insofar as HD movies are concerned.
I don't see non-HD movies becoming unavailable any time soon. And the equipment for viewing them is now mature and as low-priced as it will ever be.

The existing letterboxed non-HD movies are plenty good for me. I just watch movies, not make trendy "mine's bigger than yours" statements with my electronic equipment.

12 posted on 01/08/2006 3:34:55 PM PST by Publius6961 (The IQ of California voters is about 420........... .............cumulatively)
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What will tell the tale? We all know VHS was technically inferior to Beta. Sony held on to make it a proprietary standard demanding royalties and it flopped. Same with Apple, it is a bit player because they wanted to own everything. The most open design with the least royalties will win. By the time the haggling is over someone else may sneak in and win.


13 posted on 01/08/2006 3:37:29 PM PST by JustAnotherOkie
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If it's Sony, it will go the way of their Beta tapes.

And the way of mini-disc, and the way of ATRAC, and the way of MSX, etc.
14 posted on 01/08/2006 3:39:45 PM PST by sittnick (There is no salvation in politics.)
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I was buying a new DVD player at Best Buy a while back, it's just for a TV near my computer so I can put on a movie to watch in the background while I'm online, so I was just getting one of the cheaper ones. The salesman/cashier looked at me funny when I told them that I didn't want to buy an extended warranty, I told them that if it broke in a few months that I would just come back and spend fifty bucks on another one.


15 posted on 01/08/2006 3:41:31 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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the solution is bittorrent


16 posted on 01/08/2006 3:43:19 PM PST by bobdsmith
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To: P.O.E.

There will be no Rosetta Stone and you are right, information will be lost.


Think of all the books lost when the libaries of Alexandria were burned.

Lots of history has been lost. Yet the world goes on.


17 posted on 01/08/2006 3:44:55 PM PST by RedMonqey (People who don't who stand for something, will fall for anything.)
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Consider the deal with root kits from Sony, when deciding what products to invest in.


18 posted on 01/08/2006 3:45:52 PM PST by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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HD-DVD will almost assuredly become the winner, at least in mainstream home usage. Why? They are (the last time I read about it) going to be backward compatable with old DVDs. It also has the advantage of being the next gen of DVD, something that sounds like the old format.

Blu-Ray will survive as long as Sony wants it to because it is the basis for the Playstation 3, and, if memory serves, can hold a lot more than HD-DVD. Either way, they will take over because HD content will eventually rule, and the "full immersion" video games will be FAR closer to reality with this technology.


19 posted on 01/08/2006 3:45:58 PM PST by Crimson Elephant
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20 posted on 01/08/2006 3:46:16 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (Help control the Leftist population. Have them spayed or neutered. ©)
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