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Many Straight Guys Say 'No Thanks' to 'Brokeback Mountain'
Newhouse News ^ | 1/5/2005 | Dru Sefton

Posted on 01/05/2006 4:21:21 PM PST by Incorrigible

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To: Tall_Texan
"...At least by acknowledging it, that's a start. It's like saying, `I have a fear of heights."'

Yeah, but heights don't disgust me, either.

On the other hand, watching parasitic worms, slugs, fecal matter, decaying meat, rotten flesh, and vomit DOES disgust me, and DOES prevent me from eating that kind of thing.

So, what would a "modern" therapist tell me?

That I'M WRONG and HATE-FILLED when things that can make you sick ARE NOT attractive?

261 posted on 01/06/2006 2:42:41 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Incorrigible
His advice for straights uneasy about "Brokeback" is to "first understand you have this problem. At least by acknowledging it, that's a start. It's like saying, `I have a fear of heights."'

Wellll Doc, It's like this. It aint a phobia, it's a pukia. I'm so f'n disgusted with all the perversion out there that I just can't help but purt'near puke when I even think about it. And I have a REAL problem with any nitwit fudge-packing PhD who thinks that is a fear. So lets just call it homopukia and leave it at that, OK?

One more thing. If you think I'm spending a dime of my hard earned money to be that disgusted, you are the one who needs therapy.

262 posted on 01/06/2006 2:47:14 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: swatter
If it is a cowboy show, I want guns!!

The phrase, "Stick 'em up!" will never be the same.

263 posted on 01/06/2006 2:49:34 AM PST by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: Dutch Boy
"Homophobia," if that means a fear of sodomy, is healthy! Some fears are very healthy and are the impetus of safety and health regulations, fences, guard rails, helmets...and oh yes, of the ownership of firearms for home protection. We should be afraid of those things that could adversely influence our children. Yes, I have a very healthy fear that tells me not to allow my eldest brother who is a sodomite in California to be around my children and grandchildren. We don't go to theaters or rent or purchase home videos, but I will say that a reaction against this film that may be described as "fear" would be very healthy for individuals and for our nation.
264 posted on 01/06/2006 2:59:41 AM PST by Free Baptist
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To: Incorrigible

This is a transparent attempt to get men to watch a movie that they just will not enjoy by challenging them to prove that they are not homophobic.

Y'know what, I don't care what this guy thinks of me. I will not shell out money and waste my time to see something that I am certain to find unpleasant.


265 posted on 01/06/2006 3:01:43 AM PST by gridlock
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To: Incorrigible
It's true, the movie "Brokeback Mountain" does provoke what one researcher calls "a very strong ick factor" in some straight men.

Another candidate for the Understatement of the Year Award. The trailers are enough to turn me off.
266 posted on 01/06/2006 3:06:09 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: AFreeBird

if they looked like Catherine Zeta Jones

I didn't see the movie. Did they look like this?

268 posted on 01/06/2006 3:22:07 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: gridlock

"This is a transparent attempt to get men to watch a movie that they just will not enjoy by challenging them to prove that they are not homophobic."

I'd add just one word to your sentence, liberal. Only liberal men would be prodded by the fear of exhibiting homophobia and rush to see this movie. Conservative guys will hoot (see the rest of this thread) and still avoid the film. They're trying to boost the audience numbers with guilt.


269 posted on 01/06/2006 3:29:25 AM PST by looloo
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To: newzjunkey
Do you seriously think that peripheral titillation between sexually compatible forms is a basis for acceptance of "sex" between sexually incompatible forms?

270 posted on 01/06/2006 4:27:02 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: AFreeBird

The guy quoted obviously doesn't want to be bothered by the facts. He says the behavior engenders universal revulsion but he doesn't yet know if it is "biologically based".

That's like saying in all cultures there is a revulsion to eating sh!t but we're not yet sure if the aversion to eating sh!t is "biologically based" or not.

The contradictions are astounding but even more so because they exist in successive sentences.


271 posted on 01/06/2006 6:34:49 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten (Is your problem ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care.)
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To: William Terrell
Do you seriously think that peripheral titillation between sexually compatible forms is a basis for acceptance of "sex" between sexually incompatible forms?

On that, both the historical and moral answers are "yes." A society that gorges itself on peripheral titillations is a society that has already made the jump to a focus on sex as pleasure, either first or exclusively. An old book once made the point that homosexual activity in a society is (one) result of separating sexuality from morality and morality from its source. Sex then becomes viewed either primarily or exclusively as a source of pleasure. The hedonist paradox is that pleasure diminishes with the repetition of the pleasureable act, so you always need "more" for that buzz...., thus "normal" sexual pleasure morphs to perversion simply by being sated, bloated, and looking to be pleasured again. Misers become crooks, gluttons get fat, sexual obsessionists become pervs, and cranky old farts like myself become churls. Just the effects of what we used to call "sin."

272 posted on 01/06/2006 7:24:17 AM PST by chronic_loser ((Handle provided free of charge as flame bait for the neurally vacant.))
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To: chronic_loser
Just the effects of what we used to call "sin."

One thing we call "sin" in engaging in behavior that is antithetical to the paradigm that governs mammals in material reality.

273 posted on 01/06/2006 8:13:44 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: gondramB

I don't care to see it.


274 posted on 01/06/2006 8:15:45 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: chronic_loser

Bravo


275 posted on 01/06/2006 8:19:39 AM PST by lady lawyer
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To: William Terrell
One thing we call "sin" in engaging in behavior that is antithetical to the paradigm that governs mammals in material reality.

sorta true, but cats rats and bats will all screw their offspring to produce further offspring without a second's thought, and that at the first sign of estrus. i have heard the argument for prohibition of sexual activity on the basis of the natural order, but i think that argument fails on a number of levels.

thanks for the interaction, though.

276 posted on 01/06/2006 8:29:47 AM PST by chronic_loser ((Handle provided free of charge as flame bait for the neurally vacant.))
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To: ClearCase_guy
Cowboys know French?

Many of the cowboys I know have Master in various subjects and many speak French, German, Czech or Spanish.

277 posted on 01/06/2006 9:48:05 AM PST by TexanToTheCore (Rock the pews, Baby)
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To: chronic_loser
But cats, rats and bats which screw their offspring are male interacting with female. Mammals are ordered by male and female. Each sex is hardwired to respond to the opposite and the genital structure compliment one another for the production of more rats, bats and cats.

Homosexual behavior in humans is a result of an identity crisis, a mental illness, and any alleged homosexual behavior you find in the lower orders is the result of extreme environmental or grouping conditions.

Learn to deal rationally with reality other than what you would like it to be, like a conservative, or continue to bark your mental shins on hard and heartless Nature, like a liberal.

The interactive pleasure is all mine.

278 posted on 01/06/2006 9:52:30 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: Incorrigible

That is the only thing you can see when your head is where theirs are!


279 posted on 01/06/2006 9:52:55 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Kennedy and Kerry, the two Commissars of the Peoples' Republic of Massachusetts!)
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To: Incorrigible

Didn't take them long to blame "homophobia" for the lousy box office.


280 posted on 01/06/2006 9:55:58 AM PST by colorado tanker (I can't comment on things that might come before the Court, but I can tell you my Pinochle strategy)
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