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Scott Thomas update: mom's guardianship continued!
Scott's fight website ^ | 1/3/06 | Pamela Patton

Posted on 01/03/2006 2:43:26 PM PST by cyn

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To: All; 8mmMauser; Floridavoter

Bump to Post 783.

I sent a link of this story to priestsforlife.org.

Let's get the word out.

It seems you better not even go to Florida for a week's vaction, let alone live there - especially if you are at an age when you could have a stroke.


801 posted on 01/31/2006 11:35:30 AM PST by Sun (Hillary Clinton is pro-ILLEGAL immigration. Don't let her fool you. She has a D- /F immigr. rating.)
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To: 8mmMauser; floriduh voter; amdgmary; tutstar; pickyourpoison; Dante3; Ohioan from Florida; ...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1551314/posts?page=783#783

Hi, 8 mm -- I'm just seeing this. Is there any further information or update out?

I suggest posting this as its own thread -- as much as is ok, then link to Gazette. Perhaps we can get more info from someone in Port Charlotte, or someone in Cincinnatus, NY area. I'd like to have further info, this is just a start.

*Thanks* to the Gazette for researching & printing this story -- has this been passed on to Diane at WND and others?


802 posted on 01/31/2006 11:37:22 AM PST by cyn
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To: Sun

// Let's get the word out. // yep


803 posted on 01/31/2006 11:39:14 AM PST by cyn
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To: floriduh voter
Do you mean this one?

Greer’s illegal TV ad

804 posted on 01/31/2006 11:40:33 AM PST by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri <strike>Schiavo</strike> Schindler - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: BykrBayb

Amazing the illegal acts Greer has gotten away with.


805 posted on 01/31/2006 11:48:38 AM PST by Dante3
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To: floriduh voter
That "except where the mother's life is in danger" is a big loophole. Abortion docs will come up will all sorts of reasons that the pregnancy is endangering the mother's life.

All they will have to do is say that the pregnancy has depressed the mother and she may kill herself if the pregnancy isn't terminated.
806 posted on 01/31/2006 12:21:33 PM PST by russesjunjee (Islam and the mainstream media worship the same master...)
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To: 8mmMauser

Prayers for Ted Stith Sr.


807 posted on 01/31/2006 1:09:29 PM PST by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri <strike>Schiavo</strike> Schindler - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: All; cyn
And here's the e-mail for Florida Right-to-Life: frtl@earthlink.net Maybe they can help save him for dehydration. Here's the link for those who haven't seen it: http://www.northcountrygazette.org/articles/013006PlayingGod.html
808 posted on 01/31/2006 1:41:43 PM PST by Sun (Hillary Clinton is pro-ILLEGAL immigration. Don't let her fool you. She has a D- /F immigr. rating.)
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To: floriduh voter

Please check out my post #801 because I typed your name wrong. :)


809 posted on 01/31/2006 2:00:12 PM PST by Sun (Hillary Clinton is pro-ILLEGAL immigration. Don't let her fool you. She has a D- /F immigr. rating.)
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To: All; floriduh voter; 8mmMauser

I wonder if the ADF can help Ted and other people who are dehydrated to death:

http://www.northcountrygazette.org/articles/013006PlayingGod.html

I contacted them about Ted.


810 posted on 01/31/2006 2:03:16 PM PST by Sun (Hillary Clinton is pro-ILLEGAL immigration. Don't let her fool you. She has a D- /F immigr. rating.)
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To: cyn; BykrBayb; Sun; floriduh voter

On the Ted Stith story,

So far that is the only reference we have. I have not seen the story anywhere else. Am keeping watch.

8mm


811 posted on 01/31/2006 2:33:14 PM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu, ufam Tobie!..Jesus I trust in Thee)
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Bobby Schindler, Terri's younger brother, wrote the following letter in response to a reporter's article published by the Boston Globe.

Response to Cathy Young of the Boston Globe

Dear Ms. Young,

I writing in response to your column, “Haleigh Poutre is no Terri Schiavo”.

After reading all of the dishonesty that you purport as truths in regard to my sister Terri, I have to say that this is not only the most irresponsible article that I have yet to read from the media regarding Terri’s situation, but possibly the most egregious.

You wrote that, “Schiavo had been in a persistent vegetative state for 15 years, and had undergone a barrage of tests showing that she had no higher brain functioning and no consciousness – a fact on which all unbiased medical experts agreed.”

I want to know how you’ve researched Terri’s case, and how you’ve obtained this information. Could it be that you’ve gathered your ‘facts’ from the other opinion pieces similar to the one you’ve written about Terri?

If you are referring to autopsy that ostensibly proved that Terri was PVS, then you are entirely wrong. The Independent Medical Examiner who performed the autopsy, Dr. Jon Thogmartin, went to great lengths to caution those reviewing Terri’s autopsy that a post-mortem, forensic examination could neither confirm nor refute a diagnosis of persistent vegetative state. This is because PVS is a clinical diagnosis based on the behaviors of a living patient and not forensic pathology.

Moreover, Dr. Stephen Nelson – a consulting pathologist who assisted Dr. Thogmartin with the autopsy report – admitted that, while Terri’s symptoms were consistent with PVS, he could not rule out the possibility that Terri was in a minimally conscious state.

And there are numerous pathologists and physicians that have responded to the autopsy finding as being misleading and ambiguous. This information could have been and still can be easily provided to you.

I wonder if you were you aware that – as indicated in Terri’s medical records – she was talking when given rehabilitation in the months following her injury? This completely refutes the PVS diagnosis.

Additionally, did you know that there were more doctors on record with the court (from some of the most distinguished institutions from across the country) stating that Terri was not in PVS than there were doctors that said she was? Furthermore, most of these affidavits (there are more than 42 in total) submitted by these doctors said that if Terri was given proper therapy, her functioning capacity could have improved. Why was this never reported by the media?

Did you know that a recent British Medical Journal has reported that nearly 43% of all PVS diagnoses are, in fact, misdiagnoses? Based on this report, the Independent Medical Examiner findings, the sworn testimony and affidavits of over 42 physicians, neurologists and other healthcare professionals contradicting that Terri was in PVS, I believe it is incredibly reckless for you to make the sweeping statement that Terri was PVS.

The fact that my sister received no therapy for more than thirteen years, which also was rarely if ever reported by the media, only added to the deterioration of her condition. No autopsy report could have ever determined how much Terri would have improved if she was receiving proper rehabilitation and therapy during the past thirteen years.

To make the statement that, "...all unbiased medical experts agreed” as to the condition of my sister is so completely disingenuous that the only conclusion I can draw is that you did absolutely no research into the doctors that evaluated Terri.

Dr. Ronald Cranford, hired by Michael Schiavo, has testified in almost every major case that the removal of the feeding tube should be permitted. He even takes pleasure in the moniker, Dr. Humane Death. To call him ‘unbiased’ is like calling Rush Limbaugh a liberal democrat. And one of the other doctors that testified in my sister trial, Dr. Peter Bambakidis, was later discovered as having ties to same organization as Michael Schiavo’s attorney George Felos.

But aside from all this, what is really sad is that your article and so many others like yours does nothing but discriminate against the disabled by labeling them with this dangerous and subjective PVS diagnosis. The PVS diagnosis was created for one reason and to serve only one purpose – to kill those that are the weakest and most vulnerable among us.

No amount of damage to the brain or level of disability should give anyone the authority to kill. But this is exactly what you are saying - and is now happening all the time - that we can justify the killing of human beings because they have reached a level of profound brain damage that is unacceptable for us to care for them anymore. So, tell me, how long do you give Haliegh to improve before you give up on her and decide that she must die?

What is really shameful though is that I have to respond to articles like yours and defend my sister’s life and explain why her family should have been permitted to love her.

Columnist Nat Hentoff commented on the media and how they have handled my sister’s case. He said that it was so shoddy and inaccurate that it was the worst case of ‘journalistic malpractice’ that he’s seen in 25 years.

It continues.

Bobby Schindler

Response to Cathy Young of the Boston Globe

812 posted on 01/31/2006 7:35:09 PM PST by amdgmary
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To: 8mmMauser

thanks.


813 posted on 01/31/2006 7:52:27 PM PST by cyn
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To: 8mmMauser; sweetliberty; JulieRNR21; tutstar; eeevil conservative; wildandcrazyrussian; ...
TED STITH WANTS TO LIVE. He's been without food and water for 8 days. He said he wanted to live and he is starving!

Can you ping your lists???

Ted might not last much longer.

CAN SOMEONE CONTACT NEWSMAX AND WORLD NET DAILY who already has a relationship with them?

814 posted on 01/31/2006 7:53:10 PM PST by floriduh voter (IMPEACH JUDGE GREER...Call Jeb Bush at 1-850-488-4441 and demand justice)
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To: Salvation; NYer; nickcarraway
{ls see my last post. Florida's at it again. Ted Stith wants to live but he's in day 8 of being starved and dehydrated to death.

Any suggestions are appreciated. Put them right on the forum instead of via freepmail.

815 posted on 01/31/2006 7:55:00 PM PST by floriduh voter (IMPEACH JUDGE GREER...Call Jeb Bush at 1-850-488-4441 and demand justice)
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To: Sun

Florida is the starvation state. Is there any doubt now? Ted wants to live. He said so. How can his son just have him starved to death?


816 posted on 01/31/2006 8:08:31 PM PST by floriduh voter (IMPEACH JUDGE GREER...Call Jeb Bush at 1-850-488-4441 and demand justice)
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To: cyn

Ted no food or water for EIGHT DAYS. That's the latest.


817 posted on 01/31/2006 8:09:16 PM PST by floriduh voter (IMPEACH JUDGE GREER...Call Jeb Bush at 1-850-488-4441 and demand justice)
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To: cyn
Freepers, please take the time tomorrow to call The Thomas Moore Law Group for Ted Stith.

(734) 827-2001

"It's happening again in Florida. Another starvation/dehydration against the patient's wishes."

818 posted on 01/31/2006 8:10:56 PM PST by floriduh voter (IMPEACH JUDGE GREER...Call Jeb Bush at 1-850-488-4441 and demand justice)
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To: amdgmary

Way to go, Bobby!

He is so eloquent. Reporters would do well to take lessons from him.


819 posted on 01/31/2006 8:11:40 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: floriduh voter

It is yet another disgusting story of the lack of compassion for the disabled and elderly. Dying with dignity my @ss! Dignity would at least include friends and family at your bedside. This son is so caught up in himself, that he cannot lower himself to be with his father in what could be some of his last days. Instead, he turns and runs like a coward, not wanting to see the way he is hurting his father by his decision. His actions show that he is somewhat aware that death by dehydration won't be pleasant to watch.


820 posted on 01/31/2006 8:18:37 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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