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CAFTA Nations May Pay for Missed Deadline
AP ^ | Dec 31, 2005 | JUAN CARLOS LLORCA

Posted on 01/02/2006 10:35:26 PM PST by hedgetrimmer

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What if the US held "free trade" party and nobody came?

Sounds like the CAFTA is one of those.

1 posted on 01/02/2006 10:35:27 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: JesseJane; Justanobody; B4Ranch; Nowhere Man; Coleus; neutrino; endthematrix; investigateworld; ...
Norton said U.S. officials were helping CAFTA nations prepare for the agreement's implementation and predicted they would be added on "a rolling basis."

Is there legal authority for the US to do this? It sounds like they are just making up the rules as they go.

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Hey central America! We'll write a trade agreement. We'll pass it in congress then you all sign.

Oh, some of you don't want to sign? Thats ok, we'll sign some of you now, and some of you later. No,no, we won't run the agreement through congress to correct the language, it won't pass again. We'll just make it up was we go. What about Constitutional government and elected representation you say? What's that?
2 posted on 01/02/2006 10:42:07 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer

What? A treaty carries the same force as the constitution? It basically amends the constitution? I am sure glad the R's are for strict interpretation. It won't be long until we have a trade deficit with all of the Central American countries, not just with Mexico.


3 posted on 01/02/2006 10:49:23 PM PST by jeremiah (People wake up, the water is getting hot)
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To: hedgetrimmer
>>All six countries must make "technical changes" in customs procedures <<

No fences, is that part of the deal?

The answer for us is very simple


4 posted on 01/02/2006 11:04:24 PM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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To: B4Ranch

You want to vote Mike Pence out to get speaker pelosi?


5 posted on 01/02/2006 11:23:04 PM PST by johnmecainrino
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To: hedgetrimmer
No mention of payoffs to various Central American officials?

That's normally a line item written right into the agreement with Latin American countries.

They love that geetus (sp?) too much for this sort of thing to work.

6 posted on 01/03/2006 12:31:05 AM PST by nightdriver
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To: hedgetrimmer

" What about Constitutional government and elected representation you say? What's that?"

Sadly, that is becoming a thing of the past, and the people just don't seem to care. Maybe it's because there's so many that are ignorant of our Constitution, because they are here illegally, or attended public schools!


7 posted on 01/03/2006 5:54:46 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: hedgetrimmer
It sounds like they are just making up the rules as they go.

I must admit, even though the premise is ridiculous, insisting that all parties to an agreement ratify it at once is quite funny.

8 posted on 01/03/2006 5:58:53 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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You bet I would if I could get them all replaced with people who actually believe in their Oath of Office. We would be out of the UN in 20 minutes. All these globalist treaties would be trashed by lunchtime. The illegals would be packing up by the time the 6pm news aired on TV.


9 posted on 01/03/2006 6:16:27 AM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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"We will do it on a rolling basis, as countries make changes in law and regulation necessary to meet the CAFTA commitments," Norton said.

What is it the "free traders" say? "Free trade" agreements don't change domestic laws or affect sovereignty? Clearly the USTR doesn't believe this lie.
10 posted on 01/03/2006 8:28:42 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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Instead, they bogged down in making legal and regulatory reforms, delaying the trade union that was supposed to take effect today.

"free" trade. uh huh.
11 posted on 01/03/2006 10:54:13 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer

Politicians bog things down? I'm shocked.


12 posted on 01/03/2006 11:00:29 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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You forgot the second part of the sentence: "free trade" forces change in sovereign laws.


13 posted on 01/03/2006 2:35:59 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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Politicians force changes in laws? That's deep.


14 posted on 01/03/2006 3:47:41 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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Politicians force changes in laws? That's deep

Since you have studied law, one presumes you understand that law is supposed to come from the governed, not from international bureaucracies and the governments and corporations of foreign countries. By all appearances though, it looks like you'll take any travesty of government as long as it fraudulently names itself "free".
15 posted on 01/03/2006 7:03:35 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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Law does not come from the governed, but from the representatives the governed elect. If you cannot understand that simple distinction in our system, then any conversation about how other systems compare with ours, and how governments enter into agreements with each other is a complete waste of time.
16 posted on 01/03/2006 7:11:03 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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You are so public schooled.

Citizens go to their representatives to propose laws. THAT is how our government is designed to work. This is the process that is derived from an association "by which the whole people covenants with each citizen, and each citizen with the whole people, that all shall be governed by certain laws for the common good."

Note that the convenant is with citizens, NOT the WTO, not the CAFTA committee.


17 posted on 01/03/2006 8:05:32 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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Then propose a law abolishing the CAFTA committee, whatever that is. Problem solved. [chuckle]


18 posted on 01/04/2006 7:15:17 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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What? A treaty carries the same force as the constitution? It basically amends the constitution?

How did you dream this up?

19 posted on 01/04/2006 7:28:14 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (The Federal Reserve did not kill JFK. Greenspan was not on the grassy knoll.)
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To: 1rudeboy

How about a law abolishing Pell grants? They appear to be a waste of taxpayer money, based on your comments.


20 posted on 01/04/2006 8:00:25 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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