Foxy-Bush dance ping
Posted on 01/02/2006 2:58:18 PM PST by Icelander
El gran bumpo por esto.
Vapor.
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Vincente, is that you?
Liberal TIME in usual form. Good for Hayworth, regardless. This country needs conservatism in the worst way --- the position of the White House and Washington in general, on the border and ILLEGAL immigration is a total disaster for America and its REAL citizens. The politics of Washington are now twisted and dangerous to our national soverignty, the significance of our borders, our system of laws, and what is RIGHT for the people who are being raped financially and demographically to pay for the self-serving politics of Washington.
Why should we help anyone who breaks our laws? I like this guy.
This reads like fiction to me, but you can be sure it will be turned into a modern urban myth spouted as truth. I can almost see it on DU, headlined "Rove calls poor, starving, hard-working immigrants 'Brown people'"
I look forward to reading it. We need more real conservatives on this issue.
Foxy-Bush dance ping
Lol. If you didn't "get it," then forget it.
So true!
I would like all LEGAL immigration to stop for 10 years.
Foreigners could come in only on tourist, business or worker visas.
Don't you love it? To Time, those opposing illegal invasion are just a bunch of yahoos sitting around waiting to get riled up.
Its not a question of being anti-immigration. That's just a typical smear usually put out by people who fear any criticism of mass immigration. In fact, the modern definition of it would have to be any sentiment, feeling, or belief that opposes mass immigration or deems it a bad policy.
A genuine, honest definition of it however, would be related to thought or people who are against all immigration, period. But that sentiment is not actually put forth by most who favor genuine reform. Actual investigation into what demonized people like Tancredo and Pat Buchanan call for would reveal that they merely seek to reduce legal immigration levels, not end it, and that is a very popular, mainstream position in this nation, and that is why it and its proponents are reflexively attacked.
But anyway, to get to the specifics of this article; it confirms that Karl Rove suffers from a very bad case of White Guilt. What kind of conservative would respond to criticism of Bush's lax immigration policies as being indicative of racism (not caring about brown people)? And Karl Rove is smart enough to know that his reputation with the media and the Left is so low that not even such PC, leftwing, guilt-ridden drivel can ever result in the sort of kudos that other panderers get, so that must mean that he really believes that nonsense.
But to be fair, he denies that part of the conversation, but what he admits to is bad enough. He encouraged Hayworth to be sensitive 'to all citizens'! Since when did illegal aliens become citizens? No amnesty has been passed yet, so Rove joins the likes of Dick Gephardt in classifying illegals as 'citizens.'
Rove is an interesting man, as he knows full well that for all the talk and bragging about the exaggerated Bush performance with latinos, the biggest reason that Bush won reelection was his boost over 2000 with white voters. This must really bother Rove.
Indeed it does. The question is whether we reduce legal immigration (and this is a position that always enjoys widespread support from Americans), keep it about the same (the other popular position) but alter the way immigrants are chosen, or increase legal immigration.
The last option -- to increase legal immigration -- is by far the most unpopular with the people. But perversely, it is probably the one with the best chance to become law because it is the most popular position with powerful interest groups, along with the Democrats and the Republican leadership. I just wish that the proponents of more legal immigration would be honest about it. Be upfront and admit that their way of solving the illegal immigration problem is to increase legal immigration to such an extent that most would-be illegals can come legally in the future. State that clearly, and be honest about the large increase in already mass-levels of legal immigration that would entail and require.
Don't try to hide it and the consequences in another fraudulent piece of legislation like the 1965 Kennedy reform bill. And isn't it telling that Teddy is back sponsoring another deceptive 'reform' bill forty years later, this time with media darling John McCain?
Hayworth would be a nice addition to the Senate, but he'll have to wait until McCain leaves to get a shot, as hopefully Kyl will win reelection this year. Kyl is much more reasonable on immigration than McCain, and his alternate bill, co-sponsored by Cornyn of Texas, is much better than the McCain/Kennedy garbage.
No, no, stop the abuse of the H1B visas while we're at it.
So does VP Hayworth or even Pres.someday!
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