Posted on 01/02/2006 4:19:44 AM PST by ventana
How about this perspective. Assuming the government continues to cut programs, entitlements, etc. a certain percentage of folks will re-evaluate their relationship with their country. Where, they will ask themselves, does loyalty reside: with the multi-national firm that puts food on the table or the country that offers no assurances?
You can mis-identify me or others any way you choose, as it is apparently your inclination to proceed and make decisions on the basis of false data and your own pre-conceived notions. You seem to be particularly adept at constructing straw persons, and then knocking them down. Bully for you.
You've taken the amoral stand that money and greed justifies all actions, however remote, without any regulation whatsoever. I don't think you have a clue as to the implications of your economic philosophy, but maybe you should consider Albert Speer. It would seem you and he have a lot in common on the pure economic level. I challenge you to distinguish yourself from him among anything you've stated up to this point.
I am not afraid of such competition.
Oh well bully for you.
I am worthy of freedom.
And bully for you again. (Sheesh.)
I accept the risks.
Bully, bully, bully for you, you, YOU! I think we can get the picture. Allow me to summarize: independent and supremely in command of your awesome powers and recognition of your own vast accomplishments, you really should congratulate yourself. No problems with your self-confidence or ego, I think we can all agree (smile).
I don't think I am talking to someone like that and, frankly, I try to limit my contact with such people. Rail away if you like but it's not my job to educate you.
Yeah right. Don't let me or anyone else stop you from running away from your own defeats (smile).
No, your real calling in life was to be a business mogul. I highly recommend that you start your own IT company. I further recommend that you stick to your principle's and limit all your employee hires to American citizen's. You will hire only American's, and you will pay only what your new hires expect to earn, regardless of what they are worth. Give them a true "middle class" "living wage". Don't be excessive with the benefits and retirement plan, but don't be greedy in that respect either.
You will become the new model for business in America. If you are right -- banks, venture capitalists, and all manner of eager investor's will beat a path to your door fighting with each other for the chance to bury you in operating cash.
Any further time spent on FR outlining your brilliant business sense, and novel economic ideas, will only provide an opportunity for some other Freeper to steal your plan.
Don't waste another minute here, get that company started and become the beacon for all future American business.
P.S. Stop by when your new IT company is ready for it's IPO and let us know the how we can buy into your new business model. We will eagerly await your return, and you will have a chance to "show up" all the other Freeper's who may have thought you didn't know what the heck you were ranting about. Yes, you will finally have the upper-hand after your new company rockets to to the top of the markets.
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Agreed.
Where would be the Western civilization without thinking and debates?
And you should debate the general issues here or anywhere else for that matter. I'm not advocating any different for anyone else. For my personal, individual circumstances, with my limited time I prefer to work on a one-on-one basis, informed by the thinking and debates I've already had with my friends. This is simply how I choose to spend my time, and choose my battles against leftist ideology. You want to debate the general issues instead, and I respect that and encourage the open discussion. I believe there is ample room and need for both actions amongst conservatives. Conservatives are still vastly outnumbered in the world, there's plenty of work left to accomplish.
"Loyalty"? You expect that people will be loyal to such multi-national firms? What about getting the maximum gain from them in exchange for as little as possible? And ruining them if it brings some personal benefit?
People tend to be loyal to the hand that feeds them.
This is the solution.
They pay the government for that service in the form of taxes, both directly through corporate income taxes and property taxes, and indirectly through the income and payroll taxes of their employees. It is quite an expense they pay for that "deal".
I would rather think they'd approve of yours. But, that sort of nonsense doesn't address the issues, does it.
Right out of the dishonest, "I don't have a leg to stand on" debate playbook. What's next, picking on my mom?
Is she a math major too?
People don't exist to enrich businessmen. It is a two way street. But you come from the mindset that seems to believe that people owe you a living and owe themselves an uphill climb to get you there while they retreat ever lower each year to keep you going higher. That is the mindset of the corporation today. Filling people with psychobabble and hollow promises never intended to be kept in order to greese the wheels of the machinery and keep it going - never disaffecting people with the truth.. only with burnout as they discover the truth for themselves over time. That is why "corporation" is a curse word in america. And that's why nobody who's worked for one, by and large, wants anything to do with another when they leave one. It's a scam. But, do entertain us with more of your one sided story.
Why would I? You're asking me to aggree that your assumption is reasonable; but, you haven't established that it is. Nor have you established that Unions twist the arms of non-union companies to offshore. One truly wonders how that works, exactly. I won't agree to something you can't establish. And as I've noted, when foreign labor is cheaper than minimum wage, it's hardly the fault of unions that businesses are chosing foreign labor. It's predictable and our forefathers
understood that. They understood a great deal - seeing the ruin mega companies would inflict on the country and the like.
But, I suppose our founders are now all socialist/marxist/communist because they largely decry what you're pushing.
As for using the phrase "treason lobby", I'm sure you don't like it. I on the other hand prefer to use language apt to the task in making my points. I'm sure the dems don't like it when Coulter applies it to them; but, it makes a salient and valid point that they won't face up to any more than you will. On the other hand, sometimes you can shame people by displaying their wrongdoing for them. Some are beyond shame. I'm aware it is useless for people beyond shame. But it helps us to see who they are.. at long last.
Had to cry to mommy? Whatever are you talking about.
As for your attempts at verbal abuse as an excuse for argumentation. It doesn't work on me. Invest in an IQ and defend a position or shut up for your own sake. If you intend to waste energy on defamation, epithets and the like, you'll be doing just that - wasting *your* time.
What, we're supposed to make like nice democrats and redefine language now to make you happy?
Give it up. You're fighting a losing battle. These things have to be allowed to reach critical mass.
Ah, yes, another non-argument. Now that the treason lobby has
put competition to work forcing everyone else to commit treason just to stay alive - now you would like someone else to do it the right way and compete with those subverting "the right way" in a manner that beats them by paying more and charging more than Chinese and indian labor. IE, you rig the game and want me to beat you in order to show that I know better than you. You can't expect that everyone is that blind and stupid. Perhaps that logic made sense to you. If it did, I'd recommend therapy or an introduction to logic. At the very least, you need to stop wasting your time with goofyness.
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