Posted on 01/01/2006 2:55:51 PM PST by SunSetSam
Nothing to apologize for. :-)
We put our faith and trust in them when we vote for them. Once upon a time, being a politican was a noble profession. One can't always believe that they are all corrupt. We vote hoping, maybe this time we elected a good one.
Most Americans are trustworthy, I believe. There are good and bad in the American selection pool.
What is the alternative? It's despots and dictators. Of all the countries in all the world, I say this is the country that tries hardest to do the will of the people. It's not perfect, nothing is. But, I thank God this is my country.
Once again, that doesn't bother me. Right or wrong, that's how I feel. Nothing is secure, was it ever?
I don't see any rights we've lost. The aclu is a greater threat to this country than our government.
Some despotic tyrants over in Africa are challenging that statement.
Some despotic tyrants over in Africa are challenging that statement.
Those guys aren't destroying THEIR people. They want to keep THEIR tribe happy and compliant. Not wanting to invoke Godwin's law, but Hitler wasn't out to destroy his people either. With nobody left to rule, ruling is totally empty.
I wasn't trying to make that comparison, as to which posed a greater risk. I was probing the extent of government action that would in fact constitute a loss of rights. I hypothesized an all-seeing Big Brother, and concluded that such an entity would not impinge my rights. I can think of lots of government incursions that are a pain to comply with, but am having a hard time coming up with a realisitic fact pattern that constitutes a violation of my rights. I don't expect to be quartering the military or a minder, and short of that, as long as I am free to move about (even if I have to show papers or other proof of meeting regulations), what right is lost?
Really? We must be reading different news. Does the name, Robert Mugabe ring a bell? What about Rwanda? Hutu's and Tutsi's? Government sanctioned genocide. Here's a list of African dictators.HERE
My opinion stands.
I know you weren't, I was.
I"m curious why the law seems so muddy.
susie
It's the internet gremlins. They get me all the time!
susie
I didn't say there was no genocide, just that Mugabe doesn't want to wipe out people loyal to hime or people that he can subjugate. Hutu's don't commit genocide against Hutu's. Tutsi's don't commit genocide against Tutsi's. Hitler aimed to exterminate Jews, not "his people." I ceratinly don't dispute the existence of despotic and evil rulers, and if that is the extent of your point, well, I agree.
And I stand by my original assertion, "No government, no matter how despotic, is out to destroy it's people." It may make examples out of some via shredder, public execution, terror or other methods, but it does so in order to subjugate and obtain loyalty from the rest. Once all of the people in a country are destroyed, the ruler will be all alone, powerless to control others.
I'm sure many are, but they aren't all. I have an aunt who is a NM state rep. She is honest, and she is honestly concerned that she do what is best for her constituents. It doesn't hurt that she's a republican either! But still, I cannot believe she's the only honest politician doing the job simply to give something back to this great country. susie
I know you weren't, I was.
Oh. Well then, if that was your point, why did you bother with the post? It was totally non-responsive.
I've pointed out to you that your statement is wrong. Yet you stand by an incorrect statement. That's your choice. Governments slaughter their own citizens. Why you won't admit that fact is odd.
but it does so in order to subjugate and obtain loyalty from the rest
In order to reach subjugation, thousands if not tens of thousands of their fellow citizens are murdered. They destroy their own people.
Gotchya.
I agree.
It wasn't. It went straight to the heart of the matter. Is it merely verbiage your after in response to your post?
It wasn't. It went straight to the heart of the matter. Is it merely verbiage you recognize in response to your post?
hiccup...sorry
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