The disappearing male, In College Classrooms, Men are Missing

NorthJersey.com ^ | 12.11.05 | MICHAEL GURIAN

[Ruth A.]

You folks are in denial if you don't realize how the video games have taken over our young men. I know young adults who were taught the correct work ethic from their father/families and still want to get paid to play video games. The decline in work ethic is only one area.

[Zack Nguyen]

Pity the universities. Whatever shall they do? Too many white males in any institution is completely racist. Now they have too few. Can they openly recruit white males and remain self-respecting leftists?

[xzins]

Can you imagine telling an auto mechanic that before he can learn about transmissions that he first has to subject himself to "literature, writing, psychology...?"

[lawnguy]

Another point about this. In my area, there are many, many traditionally male jobs that go begging for people.

Plumbers, Electricians, Heating and Cooling etc. are just desperate for people, so its not like these young men are filling all these jobs.

In fact, I just had a water heater replaced awhile back by a young lady plumber who was making a very nice living, and did a fine job.

[Texas_Jarhead]

And the feminazis dance a jig.

[xzins]

Everybody's been belly-aching about WalMart, but I listened to one of their commercials today. Some store manager was talking about how he started as a stockboy and worked his way up.....said that over 70% of WalMart managers were promoted in-house.

Hands-on training tends to reduce the bullshit your kid was referring to.

[TheIndependentMinded]

I just read a great book, "Why Gender Matters". Read it and you will completely understand why our boys are getting clobbered.

[Balding_Eagle]

Dead on:

The white male is probably better off starting a business or going to work for himself somehow. In the corporate and government job world, there is extreme prejudice against the white male to succeed, in the name of the diversity agenda.

[Zack Nguyen]

He'll be more likely to get divorced, more likely to engage in violence against women, and more likely to engage in crime.

Though there may be statistical correlation between the two, I doubt that there is causal correlation between going to college and beating your wife.

[familyop]

"They didn't seem to care as much about what I taught - literature, writing and psychology."

Oh, I wonder why? Academe' knows where it can go. Young men can learn without them. Replace them with Internet programs run by the extremely few logical instructors in the sciences.

[beaver fever]

A friend of mine who is the president of a mining company got his first job hodding bricks for a bricklayer when he was fifteen.

The contractor dogged him all day screaming at him that he didn't get it, he didn't know how to work and he would amount to nothing if he didn't shape up.

This even though he showed up for work at 6 AM in the morning for a twelve hour shift.

The contractor was his BROTHER.

People have forgotten what hard work is all about.

BTW there is no such thing as an unemployed bricklayer.

[familyop]

"Laura Bush to focus on well-being of boys over next four years"

..."milk"..."male"..."horse." No thanks. We want a president who is not publicly henpecked--even in any joking manner. We need many more American men (and the very few women who really only want to do the math) in engineering--not what our confused elite want.

[Zack Nguyen]

Beginning in very early grades, the sit-still, read-your-book, raise-your-hand-quietly, don't-learn-by-doing-but-by-taking-notes classroom is a worse fit for more boys than it is for most girls.

This is a profound point. I certainly did not deal well with a traditional classroom growing up. John Taylor Gatto has down some great work in this area. Hisbook The Underground History of American Education is well worth anyone's time. It can be read for free at www.johntaylorgatto.com

[varon]

They were bright kids, but many of their faces said, "Sitting here, listening, staring at these words - this is not really who I am."

Can anyone blame them? Hell, if I would have had to listen to crap like the Vagina Monologues, I wouldn't have shown much interest either.

[Fruit of the Spirit]

""Why should we care so much about boys when men still run everything?" "

Aye, there's the rub! Men have always made more money at the same job than women. Women will, eventually, make that a thing of the past.

But are the college's real complaints about the lack of male students, or is it really about the drop in numbers that' forces them to raise tuition? Personally, I wouldn't pay two cents to go to some of these liberal colleges.

[madprof98]

I don't think the problem really stems from expecting boys to sit still in a classroom and learn - boys could do that just fine when I went to school 30plus years ago, or at least it didn't interfere with their learning back then. But the culture has changed: less boys have an intact family and a male role model to influence them.

EXACTLY RIGHT. The current issue of National Review has an excellent essay making exactly that point.

[thinking]

idiot.....!!!

[streetpreacher]

Add me to the missing list (although I'm a latestarter to begin with). Finished about 69 hours but I have no incentive to go back. I'm currently working and attending a technical school at night.

[LA Conservative]

"They didn't seem to care as much about what I taught - literature, writing and psychology. They were bright kids..." More like too narcisstic like most liberal elites, to notice that he adds no value.

[proxy_user]

I think part of the problem is that the issue has not yet hit the ruling elite. They still expect every child who is not retarded to go to college, preferrably a highly selective one, and then on to law, MBA or med school.

Nor do the highly competitive schools have any trouble getting equal numbers of boys and girls. There are so many applicants who are so good that they don't need to worry. Same thing with the grad schools, top law firms, investment banks, and brokerage houses.

Freepers might say that everything that goes on at these places is tainted by political correctness. However, those who have money and rule, although they apply these prinicples to others, are not dumb enough to apply them to themselves. Ruthless competition and the 80-hour week still apply to those who wish to be at the top of the chain.