The disappearing male, In College Classrooms, Men are Missing

NorthJersey.com ^ | 12.11.05 | MICHAEL GURIAN

[Coleus]

College isn't the only option. >>

It's not the only option, we do need skilled tradesmen.

It's just that the war against boys is so apparently true, especially in our schools.

[the808bass]

Modern day English, Psychology, Philosophy, and History classes are painful like a root canal without anesthesia.

College degrees, when executed properly, can simply be an education into how to think. How to research. How to analyze. These are valuable tools which will serve anyone well over the duration of their career. I have a BA in Classical Civilization with an emphasis in Classical greek language. Now I sell drugs (legally). My education was indispensable in developing my ability to communicate and relate to others, as well as to analyze data and clinical research.

Though this is anecdotal evidence, I believe it is representative of what a college education should be. One of my philosophy professors said that one should become an expert in anything, say medieval french literature. It's not the topic that's important, it's developing the ability to study, to analyze, and to research. If you can do that with medieval French literature, you can do it with anything.

In the end, success depends almost not a whit upon which courses you took, but simply upon your ability to apply yourself and your wits to the task at hand.

[VOA]

bump for publicity

[Al Simmons]

G-D DA*N IT, EVERYBODY, STOP IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just about EVERY ONE OF YOU (ironically arguing about the abuse of boys and men in today's society) is PARROTING THE LEFT_WING_COMMIE_ANTI-MAN movement!!!

LISTEN CLOSELY BECAUSE I WILL NOT REPEAT MYSELF!!!

ANIMALS ARE MALE OR FEMALE.

*PEOPLE* ARE MEN AND WOMEN.

IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A MAN, SAY M-A-N!!!!

NOT MALE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT AN ANIMAL LIKE THE LIBERALS WANT YOU TO BE.

God Damn It! (Sorry, am watching South park right now).

But this is serious. Using the term 'male' depersonalizes us down to the level of animals.

We are not 'male' or 'female' - we are MEN and WOMEN.

Resist the communization of our language!!! Don't use the language the ENEMIES OF CIVILIZATION have created in order to help facilitate our destruction.

Thank you for your time. (This is one of my biggest pet peeves. Ever see an old B&W movie where men were "males" instead of "MEN"? No? Didn't think so.

THINK, MAN!!! (and woman), THINK G-D-IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)(metaphorically slaps you across the cheek)...

gets off his soapbox...

[Rca2000]

I spoke about this before.

I'll ask it again:; ISN'T THIS WHAT EVERYONE WANTED???????

Isn't this what all of the femilezis fought sooooooo hard for, for 40+ years??

Isn't this what all of the social engineering studies said was "best" for all???

Wasn't the ideal "man" supposed to be a ROBOT, who would go out, work a 60+ hour work week,, drive an old, beat-up car, spend little money on himself, while he paid for ALL of the whims of some unappreciative woman, who did NOT care for him at home, or, had to support a woman from afar, and was NOT allowed to see his kids, since he would be just "harmful", to them anyway?

Funny... the femilezis got what the wanted... NOW--- they don't want it!!!!!!

The chickens have come home to roost!!!!

[AmishDude]

The truth is that people don't go to watch men's sports either -- except football and basketball. Women's basketball gets some audience. For nearly all other sports (except special circumstances like Lacrosse at Johns Hopkins, or hockey at University of North Dakota, etc.) it's all friends and family in the stands. The main problems with Title IX are that (a) football is not exempt -- it costs a lot of money but it also makes a lot of money, it pays for itself oftentimes and subsidizes the other sports as well as requiring an extraordinary number of players and (b) cheerleading is not in the mix -- that would help alleviate the disparity, and it should be added to the list of sports just because it really operates as one.

[Cementjungle]

I would have liked those odds of a male/female ratio when I was in college in the 50's.

There's always grad school!

[taxed2death]

"I live near a college. A few years ago, I walked into the local coffee shop/art house to find a college art history class in progress in the back room. The female instructor was lecturing on how objectification of women in art degraded women. Her thesis was that depiction of the nude female form in art was one way that males had subjugated women through the ages. Her questions to the male students made them answer for the evils that "men" had done. When not mumbling their answers to her questions, the boys squirmed in their chairs and looked at the floor. She did quite an effective job of humiliating them. It went on and on, a transparent abuse of her power."

Speaking from experience...this REALLY pisses me off!
I run 2 motorcycle related businesses and am also an accomplished airbrush artist. My work has appeared on the covers of many national magazines. My favorite subject matter to paint happens to be women. I am constantly humbled by the FACT that our Creator is so masterful to have created all that is around us. To have some ding-bag shrew politisize art in a way that villifies me is unconscionable.
The physical beauty of MOST women amazes me. Politics aside....one is not aware of this fact until one studies anatomy...and actually tries to paint or sculpt a person.
Running two shops as well as grinding / metal forming...welding and painting is what I do....but it's only the painting that really bring a degree of satisfaction to my work.
I'm guessing our female instructor probably never picked up a paintbrush or airbrush and made a concerted attempt to paint the human form in her life.

[taxed2death]

I have a degree in M.E. I REALLY don't think college is "all that". There is not a place in the whole world like this country where the opportunity is still available for one to strike out on their own and start a business....with or without a college education.

[taxed2death]

"The truth is that people don't go to watch men's sports either -- except football and basketball. Women's basketball gets some audience. For nearly all other sports (except special circumstances like Lacrosse at Johns Hopkins, or hockey at University of North Dakota, etc.) it's all friends and family in the stands. The main problems with Title IX are that (a) football is not exempt -- it costs a lot of money but it also makes a lot of money, it pays for itself oftentimes and subsidizes the other sports as well as requiring an extraordinary number of players and (b) cheerleading is not in the mix -- that would help alleviate the disparity, and it should be added to the list of sports just because it really operates as one."


Hmmmmmmm...you've never been to the Spanish Moto-GP hugh?

How about a Brit SBK race?

just kidding....
Happy New Years FRiend.

[Beckwith]

... and still want to get paid to play video games

Join the military and play video games for real!

[television is just wrong]

Might be, but that is what the State of California. Latinos are a protected race.

[Mr. Blonde]

And it is the feminists who will fight cheerleading becoming a sport all day long.

[Hermann the Cherusker]

I'm not putting down English and History. I think they are quite important.

But the manner of teaching them leaves MUCH to be desired. I find that most students don't learn grammar until they take a foreign language. And most students know zilch about history. You will learn far more history by reading good books on your own than you will in a history class at most schools.

Too much time is spent pondering and essaying on the meaning of gender, racism, homelessness, poverty, etc., etc.

[Hermann the Cherusker]

There are plenty of women in two engineering subjects - environmental engineering and chemical engineering.

Every other engineering major seemed to have about a 10 to 1 ratio at best at the schools I attended (CMU and Univ. of Delaware). Friends at places like Drexel, Penn State, Univ. of Wisc., Rutgers, MIT, reported similar ratios.

[Hermann the Cherusker]

The 10 to 1 man to woman ratio in engineering can also be confirmed by walking into any local engineering constulting firm or construction office or the engineering department of a major corporation. After subtracting the women in administrative support posititions, you'll find about 1 woman working as an engineer for every 20 men - AT BEST.

[Hermann the Cherusker]

make $150K a year operating a 120 ton crane

must be a union job...

Would you like untrained construction laborers just randomly hopping into large cranes to lift objects as the need arises? I work in construction and I definitely wouldn't. For what those guys do, they deserve every penny of what they earn.

[RobbyS]

It starts in kindergarten. The great majority of teachers are women and they teach in a way that appeals to women. Furthermore, the content of school work is more and more skewed toward women. A very large percentage of college graduates are in psychology, social work, and teaching--all women's fields. The "harder" fields_-science, math, engineering--are still male dominated. Boils down to the fact that guys just don't like to compete in girls' games. More than that: guys just don't like to compete with gals.

[RobbyS]

It requires as much skill as flying an airplane. and those guys don't get paid peanuts.

[Hermann the Cherusker]

Women tend to make more in the same job.

In the first office I worked in, recent female hires made more money than me even though they were only working 2 days per week and were on the baby-track. Needless to say, once I had enough experience gathered, I departed said company for higher paying pastures.