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Partial Ingredients For DNA And Protein Found Around Star
NASA via ScienceDaily.com ^ | 2005-12-30 | NA

Posted on 12/31/2005 1:32:58 AM PST by neverdem

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To: neverdem
Like the kid said when he looked under an unused bed "If we're from dust, and return to dust, something is coming or going under this bed"

Maybe the same in space!

21 posted on 12/31/2005 5:37:25 AM PST by leadhead (It’s a duty and a responsibility to defeat them. But it's also a pleasure)
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To: Termite_Commander
Squint!
22 posted on 12/31/2005 5:38:18 AM PST by Young Werther
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To: thoughtomator

Beat me to it!!!Excellent!


23 posted on 12/31/2005 5:39:10 AM PST by Young Werther
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To: neverdem; All

Wanted to let all Know, I have found evidence of writings of Marx on the Andromeda Galaxy.if you do xray spec at exactly 21:00128 hrs during the summer solstice you will plainly see "to each according to his needs from each according to his ability" at 10 angstrom wave length when Andromeda is at parallax.


24 posted on 12/31/2005 5:39:27 AM PST by ConsentofGoverned (if a sucker is born every minute, what are the voters?)
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To: ConsentofGoverned

ROFL.


25 posted on 12/31/2005 5:42:02 AM PST by Havoc (President George and King George.. coincidence?)
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To: Aracelis
The article explained how these gases are precursors to DNA:

Yeah, and iron ore is a precursor to a car. And a car is a lot less complex than DNA.

26 posted on 12/31/2005 5:47:00 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: connectthedots
suspect this will be about a credible as the South Korean cloning experiments. Nonetheless, there will be evolutionists who will jump all over this and claim that this is proof of evolution.

It might or might not be factual. But the one question they always dance around is how all these chemicals/gasses/matter, etc. got here in the first place. The are very good at explaing evolution. They are very bad at trying to tackle cause other than just proclaiming "thats the nature of the universe." A weak position IMHO.

And I am someone who buys the theory of evolution. I just remain open to some higher intelligence putting it in motion.

27 posted on 12/31/2005 5:48:31 AM PST by 101st-Eagle
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To: hopespringseternal
"Yeah, and iron ore is a precursor to a car. And a car is a lot less complex than DNA."
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Great line and right on point. What passes for science today is group think and the need to expand trivial findings into something much too profound for the weight of the data -they are the league of small minds who sprue this hyped trash.
28 posted on 12/31/2005 5:53:33 AM PST by ConsentofGoverned (if a sucker is born every minute, what are the voters?)
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To: neverdem; RightWhale
Acetylene and hydrogen cyanide can link up together in the presence of water to form some of the chemical units of life's most essential compounds, DNA and protein.

This is somewhat fuller a disclosure. Given these starting materials, a whole lot of reaction products are possible, not just the (non-sulfur) amino acids and the purines and pyrimidines. (With me in the lab, for instance, the yield of the desired products would reasonably be expected to be low. :) Still need some phosphorus, too, for RNA or DNA, but it's a good start, and certainly nothing to sneeze at.

29 posted on 12/31/2005 5:58:51 AM PST by aposiopetic
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To: 101st-Eagle
It might or might not be factual. But the one question they always dance around is how all these chemicals/gasses/matter, etc. got here in the first place. The are very good at explaing evolution. They are very bad at trying to tackle cause other than just proclaiming "thats the nature of the universe." A weak position IMHO. And I am someone who buys the theory of evolution. I just remain open to some higher intelligence putting it in motion.

Who is the "they" who don't remain open to that? Certainly not most of the evo posters round here, and certainly not most biologists worldwide. Remaining open to a supposition such as "maybe a higher intelligence is responsible for all this" (which most evos would accept), is not the same thing as promoting the idea that ID is a science (which most evos wouldn't accept) .

30 posted on 12/31/2005 6:00:53 AM PST by Thatcherite (More abrasive blackguard than SeaLion or ModernMan)
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To: Thatcherite
" is not the same thing as promoting the idea that ID is a science (which most evos wouldn't accept) ."
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The human mind is not capable of understanding all the science of ID , much like the concepts of multi-verse and the weird world of subatomic physics as deduced from string /quantum theory..but some dare to call both human science. IN both we can understand some and with both we have experiments which give us some data to support both..for ID just look to bio-tech and human attempts at ID with E coli and production of Human hormones if that is not ID then we have a basic dishonesty problem with our Darwinist kool aid drinkers.
31 posted on 12/31/2005 6:14:51 AM PST by ConsentofGoverned (if a sucker is born every minute, what are the voters?)
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To: ConsentofGoverned
" The human mind is not capable of understanding all the science of ID"

Not true. I am capable of understanding the concept of zero.

"for ID just look to bio-tech and human attempts at ID with E coli and production of Human hormones if that is not ID then we have a basic dishonesty problem with our Darwinist kool aid drinkers."

The fact that humans can engineer things is in NO way evidence that we created the universe or designed life on Earth. The only intelligent designer we have any evidence for is ourselves. That's it.
32 posted on 12/31/2005 6:20:48 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Termite_Commander

Get the new National Geographic - it has an article devoted to the Spitzer 'telescope'. Simply put, humans can only detect a small segment of light waves - there are other components, such as infrared, that are detectable by instruments. The Spitzer is flying far out in space in near-absolute zero temperatures to be able to register & record the smallest light waves. They're actually working on a new version that will be even more powerful.


33 posted on 12/31/2005 6:23:45 AM PST by lemura
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
"The only intelligent designer we have any evidence for is ourselves. That's it."
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but we have hundreds of posts stating there is NO Science of ID..you have at least admitted that humans can and have done ID.(the biblical statement G-d created man in his own image implies we have a small ability to mimic his works) .thats a start.
34 posted on 12/31/2005 6:29:14 AM PST by ConsentofGoverned (if a sucker is born every minute, what are the voters?)
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To: PatrickHenry
If abiogenesis is easy, that would be proof of design. If abiogenesis is very unlikely or impossible, that's proof of design for sure.
35 posted on 12/31/2005 6:30:22 AM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: ConsentofGoverned
" but we have hundreds of posts stating there is NO Science of ID..you have at least admitted that humans can and have done ID."

Nobody has denied human designers. This in NO way is evidence for the ID that ID'ers/creationists are talking about. To think it is is the height of naivete/ intellectual dishonesty.
36 posted on 12/31/2005 6:32:46 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
"Nobody has denied human designers. This in NO way is evidence for the ID that ID'ers/creationists are talking about. To think it is is the height of naivete/ intellectual dishonesty."
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oh come now, I called you Darwinists dishonest first!!LOL
I think the light of reason is breaking down some of the Darwinist crowd - what some call ID theory is very religious dogma an attempt to explain the world in allegory if you would. What some call ID theory is just reflection of what the data of the structure our Universe and the complexity of the life forms we know of has shown. ID is a science in bio tech and it is IMO not an unreasonable explanation for life and the Universe.
37 posted on 12/31/2005 6:43:17 AM PST by ConsentofGoverned (if a sucker is born every minute, what are the voters?)
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To: ConsentofGoverned
humans can and have done ID

Now all you'll have to do is demonstrate how humans could have done it 4 billion years ago and you'll have a point.

38 posted on 12/31/2005 6:45:28 AM PST by narby (Hillary! The Wicked Witch of the Left)
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To: narby

"Now all you'll have to do is demonstrate how humans could have done it 4 billion years ago and you'll have a point."
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LOL, at least you now admit that ID is possible and is a science even if done by humans..the damn is breaking how many fingers you guys got left to patch it up..


39 posted on 12/31/2005 6:48:37 AM PST by ConsentofGoverned (if a sucker is born every minute, what are the voters?)
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To: balch3
Cyanide is a deadly poison gas, but somehow the Darwinists think this is evidence of "life."

Dihydrogen Monoxide, aka water, is a deadly poison in sufficient amounts. I take it chemistry isn't your strong suit?

40 posted on 12/31/2005 6:50:44 AM PST by Thermalseeker
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