Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

WHAT'S THE FED UP TO WITH THE MONEY SUPPLY?(Chart didn't copy over)
Financial Sense Online ^ | 26 December 2005 | Robert McHugh

Posted on 12/27/2005 6:20:46 AM PST by hubbubhubbub

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 81-100101-120121-140141-149 next last
To: One_who_hopes_to_know

Do not forget to add to this that the factor changes as well. 50 years ago a $1 move in any DOW stock equated to a $1 move in the Dow. Over time that factor has changed so that a .25 move in any Dow stock produces a $1 move in the Dow. If the factor never changed the Dow would be between 1,100 and 1,300


101 posted on 12/28/2005 6:29:07 AM PST by Thomas Jefferson II (If we could harness the energy from our fore-fathers spinning in their graves)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: Thomas Jefferson II
... due in most part to inflated housing prices.

Wrong. If you follow the link in post #65 you'd see that housing is only $10.9 trillion, up $3.6 trillion since 2001, of our $51 trillion in net worth, up $10.4 trillion since 2001.

Not to boot that the savings rate is at an all-time low for the people with the highest net worth.

Savings rate statistics are a joke. They don't count capital gains on the plus side, but count capital gains taxes paid as a negative. They also don't count 401k or IRA contributions as savings.

102 posted on 12/28/2005 7:37:02 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (The Federal Reserve did not kill JFK. Greenspan was not on the grassy knoll.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 100 | View Replies]

To: Thomas Jefferson II
Do not forget to add to this that the factor changes as well. 50 years ago a $1 move in any DOW stock equated to a $1 move in the Dow. Over time that factor has changed so that a .25 move in any Dow stock produces a $1 move in the Dow. If the factor never changed the Dow would be between 1,100 and 1,300

You don't understand the DJIA. Why am I not surprised? They need to change the divisor every time a stock split otherwise the index would drop just because there are twice as many shares at half the price.

The Dow Jones averages are computed by summing the prices of the stocks in the average and then dividing by a constant called the "divisor". The divisor for the Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA) is adjusted periodically to reflect splits in the stocks making up the average. The divisor was originally 30 but has been reduced over the years to a value far less than one. The current value of the divisor is about 0.135; the precise value is published in the Wall Street Journal and Barron's (also see the links at the bottom of this article).

The Dow Jones Industrial Average

103 posted on 12/28/2005 7:45:31 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (The Federal Reserve did not kill JFK. Greenspan was not on the grassy knoll.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 101 | View Replies]

To: Thomas Jefferson II

It was at $497 just before Christmas, fell back from $530 or so, according to the commodity prices listed in my local daily. Can't speak for today, but that was the case recently.


104 posted on 12/28/2005 8:06:45 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 99 | View Replies]

To: hubbubhubbub
Well it got you to open your mouth and show your intelligence. LOL

Yeah right. This IDIOTIC and JUNVENILE nonsense is not worthy to wipe my butt with. Any source that compared our economy to the 'Hindenburg' and refers to Alan Greenspan as 'Greenbackspan' is a joke. These guys have been calling for the collasps of our economy for the past 4 years. When the stock market dropped to 7500 a couple years back, they were comparing it to the 1930's and telling us the DOW is headed below 5000. I laughed and told them it was going near 10,000 by years end, and it did. Financial Nonsense is nothing by a bunch of tin-foil hat junveniles who sell nothing but fear. If you want to follow what these idiots as gospel, you go right ahead. But it is your intelligence which is in question, not mine.

105 posted on 12/28/2005 9:35:40 AM PST by Always Right
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 94 | View Replies]

To: Petronski

I'm still waiting for you to utter something intelligent.


106 posted on 12/28/2005 10:53:17 AM PST by hubbubhubbub
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 89 | View Replies]

To: Always Right

Grow up you clown.


107 posted on 12/28/2005 10:55:34 AM PST by hubbubhubbub
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 105 | View Replies]

To: hubbubhubbub

One heck of a refute. Typical jevenile mentality.


108 posted on 12/28/2005 11:54:08 AM PST by Always Right
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 107 | View Replies]

To: hubbubhubbub

How would you know if I did? Would your keepers tell you? The daynurse perhaps?


109 posted on 12/28/2005 5:32:50 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 106 | View Replies]

To: LS

I was reading an article in the WSJ about the bond market and the effect that the drop in the 10 year rate to below the two year rate, had on the stock market. I don't know much about economics, but it sounded so contrived that I am sure some Democrat had a hand in spreading the rumor.


110 posted on 12/28/2005 5:42:55 PM PST by Eva
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Petronski
How would you know if I did? Would your keepers tell you? The daynurse perhaps?

Perhaps babysitter. He acts like a 13-year old.

111 posted on 12/28/2005 6:04:51 PM PST by Always Right
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 109 | View Replies]

To: Always Right

I suspect he's a ward of the state in one capacity or another.


112 posted on 12/28/2005 6:05:49 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 111 | View Replies]

To: Havoc

I am at post 22 and you are doing your "GO PAT GO" rendition. I wonder how many posts I have to go before someone starts blaming the Mexicans for devaluing our "way of life".????


113 posted on 12/28/2005 6:13:55 PM PST by chronic_loser ((Handle provided free of charge as flame bait for the neurally vacant.))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Pylot
What happens to the dollar when the oil providers will no longer accept it for oil?

Simple answer. We use them to buy nukes and troop carriers, and then the oil providers will accept it again. See how easy that is?

114 posted on 12/28/2005 6:16:24 PM PST by chronic_loser ((Handle provided free of charge as flame bait for the neurally vacant.))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: antaresequity
It sold off TEN F*ING POINTS. Whoooooooo.

I traded in the spooz pit when you could SCALP one point moves (not many times, but they existed). A ten point move, especially now that the points themselves are way less than they used to be in terms both of percentage (not much you can do about that!) and in terms of dollar value, is not exactly a cry for mommy. And such a BIG move when almost every trader with any money is out of the markets???? Crap.

These are the times when the bank of Malaysia used to come in and throw their weight around in the stock and currency mkts, (before they decided they could back down the entire interbank market with their precious ringitt), because they knew none of the big boys are playing and they could swing it. Ain't nobody home, and moves don't mean anything this time of year, and anyone who knows anything knows that.

115 posted on 12/28/2005 6:31:33 PM PST by chronic_loser ((Handle provided free of charge as flame bait for the neurally vacant.))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 70 | View Replies]

To: chronic_loser

I miss the limit down days on the noodles...limit down shut down -65...

Free fall baby...big red sticks...

Ripping through ticks like a runaway freight train...

What a rush...

It was net down about 13 yest, but what was killer is that it was plus 5 or 6 and then just went into free fall...

I have been short for the last two weeks or so just riding out the chop...so it was fun to watch the open position counter spinning up like the national deficit...LOL

Today was as expected ...narrow range chop fed up by cranks and makers...

Still short a boat load...


116 posted on 12/28/2005 6:44:54 PM PST by antaresequity ((PUSH 1 FOR ENGLISH, PUSH 2 TO BE DEPORTED))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 115 | View Replies]

To: RegulatorCountry
Gold is up 264% over the last five years, and it is 29% this year.

Tell me what stocks have done.

117 posted on 12/29/2005 6:54:01 AM PST by Thomas Jefferson II (If we could harness the energy from our fore-fathers spinning in their graves)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 104 | View Replies]

To: RegulatorCountry
Actually, it was down to 486 from a high of 544.50. It was a great trade. I am long it again from 497 looking for a higher high. Gold has been a dynamic trade the last three years, and I do not expect that to go away to soon.

I am also long TRE at .84, closed above $6.00 yesterday. But, hey! gold is a relic for making jewlery.

118 posted on 12/29/2005 7:00:54 AM PST by Thomas Jefferson II (If we could harness the energy from our fore-fathers spinning in their graves)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 104 | View Replies]

To: Toddsterpatriot

Whatever makes you feel good, Toddster!


119 posted on 12/29/2005 7:06:04 AM PST by Thomas Jefferson II (If we could harness the energy from our fore-fathers spinning in their graves)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 103 | View Replies]

To: Thomas Jefferson II
Gold is up 264% over the last five years, and it is 29% this year.

I almost hate to keep pointing out your errors, but gold is up less than 20% this year.

Tell me what stocks have done.

Well, my Altria (Philip Morris) is up about 24%. And it paid another 5% in dividends. What was gold's dividend again?

120 posted on 12/29/2005 7:24:26 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (The Federal Reserve did not kill JFK. Greenspan was not on the grassy knoll.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 117 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 81-100101-120121-140141-149 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson