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("What if" in History - No. 1) Dec. 21, 1943: NEW YORK TIMES set to publish Navajo code
DFU "what if" in history | Dec. 21, 1943 | Jonathon Risen (fictitious name)

Posted on 12/21/2005 8:54:24 PM PST by doug from upland

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Kudos to CBS's Roberts for Picking Up Democrat Harman's Defense of Bush's “Spying”
Posted by Brent Baker on December 21, 2005 - 21:14.
Though Bob Schieffer introduced Wednesday's CBS Evening News by using loaded language as he pointed out how, “to protest the President's decision to continue spying on American citizens, a federal judge took the unprecedented step of resigning from the court that issues warrants in such cases,” an event also highlighted by ABC and NBC, unlike those networks, CBS White House correspondent John Roberts informed viewers how “the President got support today from an unusual quarter: Democrat Jane Harman, a key figure on the House Intelligence Committee.” He highlighted how she asserted that “I believe the program is essential to U.S. national security” and, in a slam at the leaker and the New York Times, that the “disclosure has damaged critical intelligence capabilities.” Schieffer, however, remained most interested in the resignation. After Roberts wrapped up his story, Schieffer marveled to him: “I want to go back to this federal judge resigning. I must say in all my years in the news business, I've never heard of a federal judge resigning in protest over anything.”

ABC held its “eavesdropping” coverage to an anchor-read brief, but one devoted to the judge, while in a full story on the Patriot Act and Bush's “decision to order spying inside the U.S. without a warrant,” NBC's Kelly O'Donnell highlighted the resignation. (Transcript excerpts follow.)

(As of the time of this posting, Harman's Web site does not have the statement posted, nor do the press or minority pages for the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, on which she is the ranking Democrat. And I can only find brief references to in online news services, such as a sentence in an AP story on Yahoo News.)

On the December 21 CBS Evening News, over matching text on screen from Harman's statement, Roberts relayed:

"The President got support today from an unusual quarter: Democrat Jane Harman, a key figure on the House Intelligence Committee. 'I believe the program is essential to U.S. national security,' she said in a statement, 'and that disclosure has damaged critical intelligence capabilities.' But Harman added she's worried the spying goes beyond what she was briefed on. New concerns were raised today that the eavesdropping accidentally swept up purely domestic conversations. But the deputy National Intelligence director insists that 'One end of these communications are always outside the Unites States of America.'"...

Over on ABC's World News Tonight, anchor Elizabeth Vargas announced, over video of Robertson walking on a sidewalk:

“And one more item from Washington: There is more fallout over President Bush's program to eavesdrop on Americans without warrants. A federal judge has resigned from the court that oversees government surveillance and intelligence cases. James Robertson reportedly did so to protest the President's actions. The Washington Post says the judge is worried that the President's surveillance program is tainting the work of the court and may, in fact, be illegal.”

In a story on the NBC Nightly News pegged to the debate over the Patriot Act, Kelly O'Donnell interjected:

“But in the President's war on terror, defining the line between liberty and security is drawing new fire and new fallout over his decision to order spying inside the U.S. without a warrant. In protest, this federal judge, Judge James Robertson, has resigned from the special court known as FISA, set up to oversee government wiretaps. The White House vigorously defends the surveillance program, saying it's limited to al-Qaeda suspects and those associated with the group and had no comment on the judge's resignation.”

Scott McClellan: “I don't know the reason why the judge resigned from the FISA court. The FISA court's important one.”

O'Donnell: “Another FISA judge confirmed the resignation to NBC News, and says the remaining ten judges on the court plan to meet soon to discuss the once secret program.”


21 posted on 12/21/2005 9:16:04 PM PST by doug from upland (Hasta la vista, Tookie)
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To: Jeff Head

Ping


22 posted on 12/21/2005 9:17:46 PM PST by doug from upland (Hasta la vista, Tookie)
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To: doug from upland

This is for real? If they do this, then they most assuredly are guilty of treason. There is no question this time.


23 posted on 12/21/2005 9:18:30 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: doug from upland
Now I'm confused. The last part is part of the original story?

And yes, I am tired.

24 posted on 12/21/2005 9:20:12 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: fight_truth_decay; doug from upland
The Navajo Code Talkers were 'expendable' should they be at an immediate 'high risk' of being captured, were they not?

According to Michael Medved that was not the case. It's a Hollywood embellishment.

25 posted on 12/21/2005 9:20:33 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey hey ho ho Andy Heyward's got to go!)
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To: sageb1

The title is WHAT IF IN HISTORY. This was an attempt to stick it to the NEW YORK TIMES. Had today's reporters worked at the TIMES thens, we might have not won WW II.


26 posted on 12/21/2005 9:21:50 PM PST by doug from upland (Hasta la vista, Tookie)
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To: fight_truth_decay; doug from upland
I was also "expendable" if at risk of capture.
LOL!
During "peacetime", while in uniform.
No, I was not given implanted dental cyanide to suicide myself.
It never ceases to amaze me how ignorant people pretend to be about the nature of the "service" of uniformed members of the USA DOD.
Just because you would not be willing to undertake potentially dangerous missions, does not mean that the people who did/do were/are unaware of the risks.
f-t-d, that was a stupid and insulting comment, that denigrates the intelligence of the men who risked their lives, and of those who died, for this country.
27 posted on 12/21/2005 9:23:01 PM PST by sarasmom (Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.)
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To: doug from upland

I got it. Went back and read again. I got confused when I saw Risen's name. Sorry.


28 posted on 12/21/2005 9:23:11 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: GAB-1955

The Navajo code wasn't a code. It was the use of a language.



And the Code-breakers of Bletchley Park were really Cipher-breakers.


29 posted on 12/21/2005 9:23:28 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: sageb1

Sage to Sage. It's after midnight. GO TO BED! lol!


30 posted on 12/21/2005 9:25:03 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: sageb1

I used some fact about the Navajo Code Talkers and wove a story about a treasonous NEW YORK TIMES.


31 posted on 12/21/2005 9:25:18 PM PST by doug from upland (Hasta la vista, Tookie)
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To: doug from upland

Sorry. . . .

(sad)


32 posted on 12/21/2005 9:26:02 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: sageb1

In particular, I wanted to stick it to Risen.


33 posted on 12/21/2005 9:26:30 PM PST by doug from upland (Hasta la vista, Tookie)
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To: doug from upland

I had the extreme priveledge of meeting 8 of the Code Talkers this year at the Albuquerque Balloon Festival this year. I think that they would understand your article.

BRAVO Doug!


34 posted on 12/21/2005 9:27:00 PM PST by abner (Looking for a new tagline- Next outrage please!- Got it! PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS LOST IN THE USA!)
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To: kaehurowing

That's okay. I'm looking for other good ideas to use to stick it to the traitors.


35 posted on 12/21/2005 9:27:37 PM PST by doug from upland (Hasta la vista, Tookie)
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To: doug from upland

You qualify for today's scrappleface award. :) Nite, Doug.


36 posted on 12/21/2005 9:28:12 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Andy from Beaverton
Doug, the NYT would never print the story because it was a Democrat's war.

I heard a segment from an interview that Donald Rumsfeld did recently (I can't remember who interviewed him, damnit - I'm drawing a blank!). He said he remembered that the press just hammered FDR mercilessly all during WWII. So it's not a democrat president issue - the media just can't stand having America win any war, even one where our survival as a nation was so clearly threatened by a "traditional" enemy.

37 posted on 12/21/2005 9:28:25 PM PST by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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To: abner

That must have been a great experience. We owe them an incredible debt.


38 posted on 12/21/2005 9:29:06 PM PST by doug from upland (Hasta la vista, Tookie)
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To: doug from upland
Great job Doug...its being sent around!
(with due credit, of course)
39 posted on 12/21/2005 9:39:28 PM PST by Khurkris ("Hell, I was there"...Elmer Keith.)
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To: Khurkris

Send away, my friend. I bet James Risen might like to see it.


40 posted on 12/21/2005 9:42:45 PM PST by doug from upland (Hasta la vista, Tookie)
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