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Patriot Act Extended for Six months
Fox New | 12/21/2005 | Fox News

Posted on 12/21/2005 6:13:04 PM PST by tsmith130

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To: NapkinUser

The are wiretapping the enemy NOT you not ME Mr Paranoid . It's a VERY limited progran with VERY VERY specific guidelines, very limited scope and applications. . I suppose you feel that next will be Bush randomly picking out names in a phone book and listening in . Please man ..Stop it .The one call we dont follow and follow FAST may make the difference in another serious situation.


541 posted on 12/21/2005 10:11:18 PM PST by binkdeville
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To: silentknight

No, they haven't; you have NO points at all.


542 posted on 12/21/2005 10:11:29 PM PST by nopardons
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To: SierraWasp

Very mature response. I think the DU could use you over there.


543 posted on 12/21/2005 10:12:16 PM PST by binkdeville
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To: NapkinUser

Don't drive yourself crazy thinking of the ways the government "could" abuse your rights because that door for abuse has been open since the Constitution was signed. With that possible abuse door already being open, there has to be some element of trust with your government that they won't walk in that door.


544 posted on 12/21/2005 10:12:17 PM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: nopardons
Just WHAT "rights" have YOU personally lost due to the Patriot Act?

Ping me if you get an answer to that one; I haven't seen anybody answer that yet.

545 posted on 12/21/2005 10:12:55 PM PST by Howlin (Defeatism may have its partisan uses, but it is not justified by the facts. - GWB, 12/18/05)
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To: NapkinUser
Don't you know? Republican nanny states are good!

That's what I keep hearing but only from those silly political party hucksters. They seem willing to say anything to earn their pay.

546 posted on 12/21/2005 10:13:00 PM PST by eskimo (Political groupies - rabid defenders of the indefensible.)
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To: Howlin

Been asking it for an hour now............. yawnnnnnnnn


547 posted on 12/21/2005 10:13:22 PM PST by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: nopardons
Just WHAT "rights" have YOU personally lost due to the Patriot Act?

Very few rights are lost. But there is a whole lot more paperwork needed for just about everything.

548 posted on 12/21/2005 10:14:11 PM PST by staytrue (MOONBAT conservatives are those who would rather lose to a liberal than support a moderate)
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To: staytrue

90 year old grandma's get strip searched at the airport
I must have missed that article ..Love to read about that..Can you point me to the article on line by any chance ?


549 posted on 12/21/2005 10:14:19 PM PST by binkdeville
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To: staytrue

You'll live though that I'm sure


550 posted on 12/21/2005 10:14:48 PM PST by binkdeville
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To: staytrue

Like what?


551 posted on 12/21/2005 10:15:00 PM PST by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: bonfire; Howlin

I've asked that question on numerous occasions for the last 4 years.


552 posted on 12/21/2005 10:15:24 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Luke 2 : 8-14)
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To: bonfire

Much more paperwork to open a bank account.


554 posted on 12/21/2005 10:17:10 PM PST by staytrue (MOONBAT conservatives are those who would rather lose to a liberal than support a moderate)
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To: Wasanother
The original Authority The Records of the Federal Convention of 1787; "the President is empowered to repel sudden attacks without awaiting congressional action and to make clear that the conduct of war is vested exclusively in the President.

Interesting. That isn't found in the actual records but rather here in a discussion of the issue. Please however also note notation 1421

The contemporary and subsequent judicial interpretation was to the understanding set out in the text. Cf. Talbot v. Seeman, 1 Cr. (5 U.S.), 1, 28 (1801) (Chief Justice Marshall: “The whole powers of war being, by the Constitution of the United States, vested in congress, the acts of that body alone can be resorted to as our guides in this inquiry.”); Ex parte Milligan, 4 Wall. (71 U.S.) 2, 139 (1866).

You folks do remember Milligan don't you? The case that popped the decision of a dead President for his actions in suspending habeas corpus. I would refer you also to Hamilton's comment. Apparently the only lucid thought that most worthless individual ever had...

[T]he President is to be commander–in– chief of the army and navy of the United States. In this respect his authority would be nominally the same with that of the king of Great Britain, but in substance much inferior to it. It would amount to nothing more than the supreme command and direction of the military and naval forces, as first General and admiral of the confederacy; while that of the British king extends to the declaring of war and to the raising and regulating of fleets and armies,—all which, by the Constitution under consideration, would appertain to the legislature.--note 1416 from the same document you sourced.

555 posted on 12/21/2005 10:17:36 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: WoofDog123
We were attacked at Pearl harbor in 1941! For crying out loud, at least get the year right! Do you even know the date that Pearl Harbor was hit?

FDR put Japanese and some Germans in camps. Do you want President Bush to put every single Muslim in interment camps?

WW II was fought against enemies who were NATIONS! Which nations would you like America to fight now? And what about our home grown IslamoNazis, who swear allegiance to OBL and/or al Qaeda?

And FYI...even with the Japanese and some Germans in internment camps, Americans living in the 1940s, didn't "feel safer", because they knew that German and Japanese plans and Germans subs could easily hit us.

556 posted on 12/21/2005 10:18:36 PM PST by nopardons
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To: staytrue

b.s. Just opened two and no problem at all. And I moved from one state to another.


557 posted on 12/21/2005 10:18:43 PM PST by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: nopardons
Since you don't know what anyone who posts to FR does for a living, your juvenile post is not only pathetic and silly, it is worthless to boot.

Your stupid and juvenile assessment of what I said just validates my statements.

558 posted on 12/21/2005 10:18:50 PM PST by eskimo (Political groupies - rabid defenders of the indefensible.)
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To: staytrue
Following the law to the very last letter in all aspects is insane. You obviously have not tried to understand the tax laws. You obviously have not read up on work rules and regulations.

That has what to do with Homeland Security?

Following the law means singing an altered version of "Silent Night" at school.

If there was a law against singing altered versions of any song, we'd all be spared the agony of having to hear Celine Dion or Anne Murray, or Pat Boone, butcher good, decent, songs.

Frankly, there should be a $5 fine for whining.

559 posted on 12/21/2005 10:19:35 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Luke 2 : 8-14)
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To: bonfire
So your life hasn't been affected one iota. Nor anyone in your family or your friends and neighbors. I thought as much.

"First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew. Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist. Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

560 posted on 12/21/2005 10:21:58 PM PST by NapkinUser ("Our troops have become the enemy." -Representative John P. Murtha, modern day Benedict Arnold.)
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