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Mary Mapes's hell [New Book Will Tear Her A New One]
Powerline ^ | Dec. 20, 2005 | Scott Johnson

Posted on 12/20/2005 5:29:03 AM PST by conservativecorner

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To: shezza
"Mary: The overhyped typeface criticisms ingeniously hijacked the story and created a false controversy, which media competitors gleefully exploited as proof that CBS had fallen short. In fact, ALL the evidence supported the documents' genuineness and that holds true today. "

What twisted reasoning can be used, can be imagined, to justify the fact the font matches MS Word, yet was purported to have been produced in the '70's by a typewriter?

As soon as I saw the image overlaying the MS Word paragraph with that of the forgery, it was obvious they were fake.

How can people disregard this evidence?

Signed,

Puzzled
61 posted on 12/20/2005 4:13:58 PM PST by Forgiven_Sinner (God is offering you eternal life right now. Freep mail me if you want to know how to receive it.)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
Dear Puzzled,
Pay no attention to the Man Behind the Curtain.
Believe what we tell you, not what you see.
We have nothing but your best interests at heart. No, really.
Signed,
Your Comrades in the MSM
62 posted on 12/20/2005 6:10:24 PM PST by shezza (54 days)
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To: Howlin; txrangerette; Mo1; kcvl; TankerKC; Grampa Dave; Miss Marple; deport; McGavin999; Peach; ...

A Short Rebuttal


Not that anyone cares, anymore, but just two sentences of Mapes’ letter contain an incredible fusillade of lies.

We carefully vetted their every detail, matched them with official records and corroborated their content with a former commander. Our document analysis has been completely misconstrued by reporters, pundits and the panel: two analysts validated the documents' typing and signatures and two others deferred to them before our broadcast, despite their later characterizations.

Careful vetting? They were in a mad rush to air, and didn’t have time for a thorough vetting. Burkett was not vetted as a source - he was an obvious nut as 15 minutes on Google would have shown; he asked for money as a quid pro quo, he asked to be hooked up to the campaign as a quid pro quo; he was a indefatigable litigant against Bush, and spent hours with Mapes explaining his “case.” More red flags than the Communist Party, and that’s just a drop in the bucket.

Her account of the experts is a total, knowing, intentional pack of lies, or the delusional fantasy of whack-job. The experts were shown only 2 of the questioned documents, not all of them. Thornburgh Report, p. 80. Only one of these had Killian’s “signature.” Id., p. 86.

Emily Will did not authenticate, she disputed the signature on the 6/24/73 memo, and e-mailed a write up of the issue to Mapes’ production assistant, who forwarded the e-mail to Mapes. She then talked to Mapes on the phone and explained the problems. Will also talked to Mapes about the typography problems, including superscripted th, and proportional fonts. Id., p. 84-85. Will told Mapes specifically that she didn’t think the documents could have been prepared in 1972 and believed they must have been done on a word processor. Id. at 106-107. Will told Mapes that if she used the documents, “every document expert in the country will be after you with hundreds of questions.” Id. at 107. Folks, this was before they went to air. Will typed the two documents in MS Word, and noticed the similarities. “Will strongly denied to the Panel that she had deferred to Matley.” Id. Mapes blew off these concerns by claiming the content had been verified, id., as she has blown off all contrary evidence.

Linda James refused to authenticate the signature on the 6/24/73 memo. She found “unexplainable differences.” Id. at 108. She also noticed problems with the typography, specifically pointing out the superscripted th to Mapes’ assistant. Id., p. 85, 108. Mapes’s reaction: “Enough with the [expletive] th!” Id. at 108. James specifically denied deferring to Matley. Id.

James Pierce did authenticate the signature on the 6/24/73 memo. Yet his opinion was qualified because he did not have originals. Id. at 85-86.

Marcel Matley also authenticated the signature on the 6/24/73 memo. But, and this is important, the signatures were the only thing Matley gave an opinion on. He did not give an opinion on the documents themselves, or their typography. Id. at 86, 98-99.

Three of the six documents had no signatures or handwriting. CBS used 2 of the 3. Id. 99. Matley also refused to opine on one that had only initials. Id. As to these, therefore, Matley had nothing to offer by way of support. Thus, they claimed Matley had authenticated all 4 documents they used on air. In fact, he had only authenticated the signature on one, and that was with qualifications, and nothing else. Id.

Matley was the only document examiner shown more than the two documents. Id., at 98.

As for the other experts deferring to Matley, there was nothing to defer to on the subject of typography as Matley gave no opinion on that. As for the signature issue, Will and James insist they did NOT defer.

Col. Strong was shown to have no relevant personal knowledge of anything, and therefore not in a position to authenticate or confirm anything. Id. at 89.

The Thornburgh panel’s interview of Col. Hodges totally destroys the claim that he authenticated or confirmed the content of the memos. To the contrary, he refuted it. Id., 103. For example, he told her that Bush had Killian’s permission to go to Alabama and take his physical when he returned. Mapes hung up the phone from being told that and claimed to have verification of the documents. Id., 103-104.

Total Liar or Total Nut. Take your pick.
63 posted on 12/20/2005 7:26:05 PM PST by Buckhead
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To: Buckhead

bttt


64 posted on 12/20/2005 7:27:19 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Buckhead

The two are not mutually exclusive, you know.

She's so over, but she won't lie down.

I can't wait for this new book.


65 posted on 12/20/2005 7:36:19 PM PST by Howlin (Defeatism may have its partisan uses, but it is not justified by the facts. - GWB, 12/18/05)
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To: Grampa Dave
"They are just like the professional criminals in jail for life or many long years, 'I was framed!'"

Whoa, does this mean her next project will be a biography of Alger Hiss?
66 posted on 12/20/2005 7:41:42 PM PST by decal (Mother Nature and Real Life are conservatives; the Progs have never figured this out.)
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To: Buckhead

"delusional fantasy of a whack-job" comes closest in my mind. Liar comes in a close second, though. Remind you of anyone? She is as much of a sicko as Burkett himself.


67 posted on 12/20/2005 7:42:02 PM PST by txrangerette
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To: txrangerette

Yeah, they are really peas in a pod.


68 posted on 12/20/2005 7:46:45 PM PST by Buckhead
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To: Buckhead

A total lying nutjob. That's my pick :-)


69 posted on 12/20/2005 7:50:29 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Buckhead
Mapes’s reaction: “Enough with the [expletive] th!”

That pretty much sums it up, doesn't it.

he told her that Bush had Killian’s permission to go to Alabama and take his physical when he returned. Mapes hung up the phone from being told that

Enough with the [expletive] truth.

70 posted on 12/20/2005 8:35:34 PM PST by silent_jonny
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To: Buckhead; kcvl; txrangerette; Howlin

I vote for a Buckhead book tour!! :-)


71 posted on 12/21/2005 3:52:34 AM PST by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: conservativecorner

this is why it is hard to lie. The liar never knows what he doesnt know. What doesn't come up on his radar as a problem, Screams out to others as your lunatic uncle running down the street pantsless, screaming about the evils of celery. It is something that you can not not notice. Mapes always had the MSM to cover her lies so she grew over confident. I am sure she was clearing a place on her shelf for her emmy. Lucky for us she just keeps providing fodder for us to comment on.


72 posted on 12/21/2005 4:03:11 AM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: Buckhead

Blinded by fury and hate, that is my pick.


73 posted on 12/21/2005 4:12:07 AM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: Buckhead

Liar or Nut.....both


74 posted on 12/21/2005 4:14:08 AM PST by mystery-ak (Merry Christmas)
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To: Buckhead

Just another jealous no talent.

75 posted on 12/21/2005 4:20:15 AM PST by bmwcyle (Evolution is a myth -- Libertarians just won't evolve into Conservatives.)
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To: Walkingfeather

"Lucky for us she just keeps providing fodder for us to comment on."

AMEN BUMP!!


76 posted on 12/21/2005 5:26:34 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: Coop; Buckhead
{Coop wrote: "I vote for a Buckhead book tour!!":-) }

SECOND THAT!

77 posted on 12/21/2005 6:56:47 AM PST by txrangerette
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To: Buckhead
Total Liar or Total Nut. Take your pick.

My vote is for 'BOTH'.

It's amazing to see these leftists go completely over the edge in hatred. They don't even seem to care that what they are saying can be easily disproven........they say it anyway.

I say, let Mary keep talking. She is so obviously disturbed that it does nothing but help the truth be known to hear her whine and utter [expletive deleteds].

Can't wait for Campenni's book! Thanks for the ping, Buckhead. Great stuff! Keep up the good work!

78 posted on 12/21/2005 6:59:37 AM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: Buckhead

And to think that Mapes's peers called her "brilliant". Says alot about the state of journalism these days. How the hell did a Moonbat like Mapes climb the CBS corporate ladder? How many other stories of hers were just as fraudulant as this one? How many other Mary Mapes are working right now at the NYTs, Wapo, LA Times, etc.?


79 posted on 12/21/2005 7:00:02 AM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: jackieaxe
There is not a jury in the world that would believe Ms. Mapes assertion that these documents are real.

No original documents + no original source = unsubstantiated BS

80 posted on 12/21/2005 7:16:04 AM PST by TX Bluebonnet
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