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Unwarranted Outrage - The Times blew our cover.
National Review Online ^ | December 19, 2005, 8:59 a.m. | James S. Robbins

Posted on 12/19/2005 1:53:38 PM PST by Cinnamon

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To: DJ MacWoW

Not trollish.

See I support reason over emotion, knowledge over belief.

Sometimes that conflicts with what people want to believe.


121 posted on 12/19/2005 3:41:47 PM PST by Holdek (Real conservatives support the Bill of Rights)
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To: liberty_lvr

Your rudeness aside...

I have yet to see anyone support the notion that you can wiretap U.S. citizens without a court order and not be in violation of both the law and the constitution.


122 posted on 12/19/2005 3:43:07 PM PST by Holdek (Real conservatives support the Bill of Rights)
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To: Holdek; Minnesoootan
How does one prove a negative?

Proving a negative is impossible when it comes to conduct, but when it comes to arguing that there is "no written Iraqi law," all you have to do is ... drum roll please .... read the Iraqi law books.

123 posted on 12/19/2005 3:43:19 PM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: Holdek; All

124 posted on 12/19/2005 3:44:28 PM PST by the anti-liberal (Hey, Al Qaeda: Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent)
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To: Holdek
See I support reason over emotion, knowledge over belief.

Then may I suggest a remedial reading course. Because you lack reading comprehension. You've been given cites and continue to hold on to YOUR mistaken BELIEF.

125 posted on 12/19/2005 3:45:25 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: DJ MacWoW; Arrowhead1952; MEG33; darkwing104; Darksheare; Jet Jaguar

I guess I came late to the party. :) Sounds like an interesting afternoon.


126 posted on 12/19/2005 3:45:57 PM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: proud American in Canada

You're going to be drum-rolliing for a long time. You want me to post the entire Iraqi civil code here?


127 posted on 12/19/2005 3:46:58 PM PST by Holdek (Real conservatives support the Bill of Rights)
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To: Holdek

Since 2005-12-03


128 posted on 12/19/2005 3:48:06 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: Holdek

"I have yet to see anyone support the notion that you can wiretap U.S. citizens without a court order and not be in violation of both the law and the constitution."

You prove that there are none so blind as those who refuse to see.

Go read FISA. The links are provided.

FISA has been upheld as constiutional, as have other, earlier, acts that gave much less protection.


129 posted on 12/19/2005 3:48:22 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: DJ MacWoW

Yes I know the horror, that I would hold on to my belief...which is anchored in the law and the Constitution, not in "Well I think the President ought to be able to do it, so he should!"


130 posted on 12/19/2005 3:49:37 PM PST by Holdek (Real conservatives support the Bill of Rights)
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To: proud American in Canada; Arrowhead1952; MEG33; darkwing104; Darksheare; Jet Jaguar

Yes. We have an illiterate troll. Poor thing can't read.


131 posted on 12/19/2005 3:50:17 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: Holdek

You have been cited law and fact in several posts and continue to blithely ignore it.
You are continuing along in mistaken belief rather than basing off FACT.

Got zot?


132 posted on 12/19/2005 3:50:38 PM PST by Darksheare ("Keep it just between us..." she said, and then she faded into the mist.)
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To: Cinnamon

Thanks for posting... good stuff...


133 posted on 12/19/2005 3:51:02 PM PST by tje
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To: Holdek
You're going to be drum-rolliing for a long time. You want me to post the entire Iraqi civil code here?

Why not post a link. I'm quite sure there will be several people who will actually take the time to read through it.

134 posted on 12/19/2005 3:51:07 PM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: MeanWestTexan

You seem to just be unable to get it.

NO WHERE in FISA does it allow the President to allow a warantless wiretap on a citizen of the United States. No where. No one has posted any information to the contrary.


135 posted on 12/19/2005 3:51:16 PM PST by Holdek (Real conservatives support the Bill of Rights)
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To: Holdek

"that I would hold on to my belief"

Contrary to law..

"which is anchored in the law and the Constitution, "

A lack of understanding of the laws cited to you, willful twisting and ignoring of said laws..

"not in "Well I think the President ought to be able to do it, so he should!""

And ignoring HISTORY and fact.


136 posted on 12/19/2005 3:51:49 PM PST by Darksheare ("Keep it just between us..." she said, and then she faded into the mist.)
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To: Holdek

No, YOU are unable to get it.
YOU claimed that no prior politician wiretapped anyone.
Fact and history don't back you up.
And yes, you ARE a troll.


137 posted on 12/19/2005 3:52:33 PM PST by Darksheare ("Keep it just between us..." she said, and then she faded into the mist.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Yes. We have an illiterate troll. Poor thing can't read

*shakes head* Such a shame. ;)

138 posted on 12/19/2005 3:53:01 PM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: Holdek
which is anchored in the law and the Constitution,

Your problem is that you haven't READ the law. It was given to you. I read just recently that literacy IS a problem for some. Go back to DU or wherever you crawled out of because your feints won't work here.

139 posted on 12/19/2005 3:53:44 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: Holdek

zot....dolt!


140 posted on 12/19/2005 3:54:52 PM PST by xone
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