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Michael Medved: "Is Spielberg Right to Compare the Palestinian Terrorists with Israeli Response?"
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Posted on 12/19/2005 1:17:51 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl

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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse; SJackson

And ignorant bigots at that, since the majority of Jews under 30 voted for Bush and we aren't ALL a bunch a commies.


61 posted on 12/19/2005 4:26:42 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Again, I'd like to know specifically what criticisms the Wiesenthal center has made about fundamentalist Protestants, not just that some people have accused them of doing so. I think there's a tendancy to group them with the ADL and they are not the same.


62 posted on 12/19/2005 4:44:52 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Again, I'd like to know specifically what criticisms the Wiesenthal center has made about fundamentalist Protestants, not just that some people have accused them of doing so. I think there's a tendancy to group them with the ADL and they are not the same.

I believe Don Feder did so explicitly, though with regard to the Gibson movie. Other than this I can only apologize.

I would like to hear the Wiesenthal Center more active in defending Israel from moslems and Arabs like the Iranian president, as well.

63 posted on 12/19/2005 4:52:25 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Liberal Jews and conservative chr*stians should switch religions.)
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To: All

I think this movie may, like Michael Moore's fraud, actually have a net effect just the opposite of what the Director wanted.

I would imagine that a majority of the audience will be liberals who already oppose the war on terror;i.e. preachin to the choir.
The remaining people may watch and listen to Spielberg's sympathetic portrayal of terrorists and reject his thesis.
What will help is the fact that a vast majority of the narratives we have experienced in books, TV and Cinema, follow the path of crime by villain, hunt and retribution by good guy, villain gets what he deserves in end.


64 posted on 12/19/2005 5:41:49 PM PST by Jonah Johansen ("Comming soon to a neighborhood near you")
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To: SJackson
Uhhh - before implying FReepers are bigots, consider their argument and try refutation instead of argumentum ad homenum.

PS It might be a bit difficult for me to be anti-Semetic, for both my mother and the Rabbi think I am Jewish. But then again, what would they know compared to you? ;-)
65 posted on 12/19/2005 7:09:26 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: Borges

I understand your point, but I'm talking about something else. If you choose to tell a story about the holocaust, you can pick your story. Spielberg did not have to pick Schindler's list. As inspiring a story as it is, it is atypical in terms of the moral dimensions of what the holocaust was.

He could have chosen from many other books to create a film on the subject.


66 posted on 12/19/2005 8:08:19 PM PST by JewishRighter
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To: FreeRep

Good example of a story about ism that does not muddle the "good vs. evil" thing.


67 posted on 12/19/2005 8:10:17 PM PST by JewishRighter
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To: JewishRighter
He didn't choose to tell a story about the Holocaust he chose to adapt that particular book. He'd been wanting to since it was published in the early 80s.
68 posted on 12/19/2005 9:12:44 PM PST by Borges
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To: Cinnamon Girl

Another good film-now available via DVD-on the response to the Munich Massacre is "Sword[s} of Gideon." It was orginally made for HBO and stars Stephen Bauer and Michael York.


69 posted on 12/19/2005 9:22:03 PM PST by Brofholdonow
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To: Brofholdonow

Several people have recommended that. I'll have to check it out.


70 posted on 12/19/2005 10:35:29 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: Enchante

I agree 100%!!! You are exactly right!!!


71 posted on 12/19/2005 11:06:05 PM PST by clooney4824
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To: Cinnamon Girl

I think Spielberg wanted to do the film but also felt that being jewish and dealing with a political issue like this he had to go overboard to balance it out lest he be accused of being biased for israel just because he's jewish. he didn't want people saying "oh, what a shock, the jew spielberg made a pro israel movie". so he went out of his way to guard against that by including pro plo stuff.

I think the chance to take a dig at us policy post 9/11 also played a role. but spielberg's 2 films Schindlers list and ryan were both good. ryan is probably one of the most pro military, pro us films in recent memory, certainly compared to the wrath of anti-us films post-nam. his next film is about iwo jima. it'll be interesting to see how he handles that one.


72 posted on 12/21/2005 1:57:37 AM PST by jeltz25
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To: Cinnamon Girl

to be fair, there really isn't a jewish actor out there that can play the tough-guy mossad agent role. I mean, what jewish actor would you have cast? adam sandler? ben stiller? jewish actors are mostly comedians, not action stars.


73 posted on 12/21/2005 2:00:37 AM PST by jeltz25
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To: Brofholdonow

it's worth it just to see Manny from Scarface as a Mossad agent. It's a shame they had to get a 3rd rate star like Eric Bana for this. No one knows who the guy is.


74 posted on 12/21/2005 2:08:08 AM PST by jeltz25
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To: jeltz25
First of all, what about Israeli actors? Second, how about Jason Isaacs? How about Ron Silver in one of the Mossad roles? How about Hank Azaria, who is totally buff and played the leader of the rebellion in that Warsaw Ghetto uprising t.v. movie? Actually, the guy who plays the bomb-maker is Jewish, I think.

Perhaps some Jewish actors were considered but they turned it down because they were disgusted. Interestingly, the original screenplay was written by Eric Roth who wrote the script for "Forrest Gump" but Spielberg rejected it and went to Tony Kushner.

75 posted on 12/21/2005 8:10:26 AM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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