Skip to comments.
Cheaper Than Mink Or Sable - Fur Coats Made From Dogs That Were Skinned Alive
The Telegraph (UK) ^
| 12-18-2005
| Katy Duke/Elizabeth Day
Posted on 12/17/2005 6:07:46 PM PST by blam
click here to read article
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20, 21-40, 41-60, 61-80 ... 101-106 next last
To: calex59
"I have two words to convey my feelings about this article: BS. No one skins dogs or any other animal alive. killing an animal would not ruin the freshness of the fur, even if you let the animal hang for a day. As I said, BS."
Yup, I think this one ranks right up there with the "Banzai Kittens" hoax that was going around a couple of years ago.
41
posted on
12/17/2005 6:43:31 PM PST
by
CrazyIvan
(If you read only one book this year, read "Stolen Valor".)
To: blam
Dogs? Who gives a rip? But CATS?!
Nuke 'em.
:-)
42
posted on
12/17/2005 6:43:59 PM PST
by
manwiththehands
("Merry Christmas .... and Happy New Year ... you can take your seat now ...")
To: Hack
I've seen them. At 16, they are beauties. At 30, they are bench pressing small naval vessels. At 45, they are babushkas.
43
posted on
12/17/2005 6:46:52 PM PST
by
Sender
(Team Infidel USA)
To: FairOpinion
That's who they buy the dogs from
44
posted on
12/17/2005 6:47:11 PM PST
by
kentj
To: CrazyIvan
Skinning an animal alive would destroy the pelt 100% of the time. Struggling animals tend to get blood all over the pelt (bye bye, fur), and would make it impossible to make clean cuts. The more I look at this story, the more convinced I am that it's a 100% manufactured LIE. It simply doesn't hold water.
45
posted on
12/17/2005 6:48:02 PM PST
by
Windcatcher
(Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
To: calex59
I was just going to post this same observation but you have done it the credit it deserves - BS. "Freshness", if that were even a valid concept, would be more a function of the season the animal was in and the treatement of the pelt before it was tanned.
46
posted on
12/17/2005 6:53:33 PM PST
by
WorkingClassFilth
(The problem with being a 'big tent' Party is that the clowns are seated with the paying customers.)
To: FairOpinion
and hundreds of millions of pre born children and....young
children who doctors or social workers determine have disabilites...too difficult for the social workers or doctors
to live with...
They should consult the Ed Gein handbook on skinning people
for fine leather goods like gloves and handbags...even lampshades...
47
posted on
12/17/2005 6:54:25 PM PST
by
joesnuffy
(A camel once bit my sister-we knew just what to do- gather large rocks & squash her-Mullet Ho'mar)
To: blam
Skinning animals alive...their pain makes a nice sacrifice to allah...
48
posted on
12/17/2005 6:55:28 PM PST
by
joesnuffy
(A camel once bit my sister-we knew just what to do- gather large rocks & squash her-Mullet Ho'mar)
To: blam
49
posted on
12/17/2005 6:57:46 PM PST
by
woofie
To: FairOpinion
It seems like the
"skinned alive" stories all seem to be coming from the same PETA sources. Not entirely credible in my book. They've been known to produce their own animal torture videos to illustrate their case. I have no doubt China is using Dog and Cat fur, but anything coming from PETA is dubious.
Model-turned-activist HEATHER MILLS McCARTNEY is furious with Chinese officials after watching hours of video footage of dogs and cats being skinned alive for their fur.
Animal rights group People For the Ethical Treatment of Animals obtained the footage after infiltrating a Chinese dog and cat 'warehouse' this summer (05) and Mills McCartney has agreed to air the harrowing video on her website.
But Mills McCartney, who lost her leg in a motorbike accident, admits that watching the footage made her furious with Chinese officials who refuse to outlaw the "barbaric" practice - because she feels for the animal victims.
She fumes, "We watched hours of it (footage) and the dog is still alive for 20 minutes, it's still blinking and shaking and just in total shock.
"I know, from losing my leg... the endorphin and the adrenalin rushes in and you feel the pain but then you're just in absolute shock.
"It's (dog) lying there in complete shock and then they just throw it on another pile of flesh."
Mills McCartney has also exploded the myth that the Chinese eat dog flesh, despite reports to the contrary.
She adds, "The dog that they eat and have the meat from, they don't use its skin or its fur, and the dog whose skin and fur is used, they don't eat the meat. It's barbaric."
Like I'm supposed to believe that the Chinese can't figure out how to use the meat from an animal the've skinned for it's fur, or use the fur from an animal they are going to use for meat? This is not credible.
To: blam
Her peg leg was made from petroleum products.
To: blam
"Skinned alive". Right. They are much easier to skin when they are clawing and biting you. Before the article even starts it's way off the BS meter.
To: blam
Dog pelts being sold as wolf pelts I can believe. Pelts from strays is a maybe, the quality would be poor, but maybe portions would be suitable for hood and cuff trim. Skinning them alive while drugged is just stoopid Peta BS. Drugs cost more than bullets, clubs or throat slitting.
But the people who will believe this tripe can't think their way out of a wet paper bag and won't want the realities explained to them anyway.
53
posted on
12/17/2005 7:11:37 PM PST
by
Valpal1
(Crush jihadists, drive collaborators before you, hear the lamentations of their media. Allahu FUBAR!)
To: blam
Consider the source.
EuroWeenie PETA BS.
54
posted on
12/17/2005 7:14:27 PM PST
by
msf92497
(Was Republican...Now just a Conservative.)
To: joshhiggins
1. There is no way they're producing rugs of this kind with multiple pelts, all of which have identical color balance. In the photo we can see 14 pelts, but we also see as many as 5 columns and at least 4 rows, for a minumum of 20 pelts. The writer is stressing the use of pets and/or strays. To achieve this result it's not inconceivable that the makers would have to go through at least hundreds, but much more likely thousands of cats to get this result, taking into account that strays usually have diseases and wounds that would ruin their pelts. How long does it take, in terms of man-hours to scout a couple of thousand cats? A year? Two years? Less, the more scouters you have, of course, but then there's that pesky problem of paying them. Not to mention the fact that if people suffered under a rash of having their pets disappear, it could become rather dangerous for the skinners. Oops, time for the skinners to start buying weapons, and muscle.
Sable pelts would be cheaper.
2. But let's take it a step further. Let's assume that the cats are farmed, such as in an evil empire like the People's Republic of China. Once again, unless they're breeding purebloods, they have to have perhaps hundreds to thousands of cats on their site. What does it cost to feed and shelter a thousand cats? What's more, what does it cost to feed them well, immunize them, protect them from each other, and otherwise coddle them to ensure good quality pelts? A heck of a lot, I'd wager. What does it cost to pay the people to take care of them? Or if the caretakers are prisoners, what does it cost to guard them?
One HECK of a lot. Sable pelts would be way cheaper in the end.
3. Skinning alive. We've already gone over this to death. TOTAL BS. There is only one way to ensure a good pelt when skinning/tanning, and that's to kill the animal as easily as possible (to protect the pelt), drain it, carefully skin it, and then go on with the tanning process. It's a time-consuming process, and involves a cost as well:
a. LOTS of lumber for tanning (unless the lefties are naive enough to think we would believe that people would tan the pelts one at a time).
b. Twine for stretching the pelt and fixing it to the lumber.
c. TIME. Tanning takes days, and for something of this scale, time is money. A lot of money. A heck of a lot of money. 20+ pelts for one rug? Give me a break.
d. And last but not least, salt for curing the pelt (several pounds per pelt). Not cheap, and also requires storage space, which involves its own costs, like rent and manpower).
Sable pelts would be a bargain.
55
posted on
12/17/2005 7:20:48 PM PST
by
Windcatcher
(Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
To: calex59
http://www.animalsasia.org/
Wrong, wrong, they DO skin them alive and eat them because a 'skint alive' dog is supposed to taste better.
Doubt me? Read http://www.animalsasia.org/index.php?module=3&lg=en
![](http://www.animalsasia.org/eng/template/template01/image0000001249.jpg)
And this is not the worst of it.
56
posted on
12/17/2005 7:22:04 PM PST
by
HighlyOpinionated
(In Memory of Crockett Nicolas, hit and run in the prime of his Cocker Spaniel life, 9/3/05.)
To: Windcatcher
"Skinning an animal alive would destroy the pelt 100% of the time. Struggling animals tend to get blood all over the pelt (bye bye, fur), and would make it impossible to make clean cuts. The more I look at this story, the more convinced I am that it's a 100% manufactured LIE. It simply doesn't hold water."
Add to that the fact that it could become conscious and get loose. I would hate to think about dealing with a 100+lb dog that is somewhat irritated at this stage. Of course that's just what someone who would try this would deserve.
57
posted on
12/17/2005 7:22:32 PM PST
by
CrazyIvan
(If you read only one book this year, read "Stolen Valor".)
To: Viking2002
No kidding. I knew a couple who let their dog stay outside their home throughout the Upper Midwest winter, with minus 20 degree nights. It was obvious the dog just wanted inside their little hallway, but no, he never came in. And yes, they were heartless people.
58
posted on
12/17/2005 7:46:19 PM PST
by
sine_nomine
(Every baby is a blessing from God, from the moment of conception.)
To: martin_fierro
Its wearer was tipped off when a pack of dogs ran up and sniffed her butt.She was reported as saying, "It's better than where the little brutes usually jam their snouts!"
59
posted on
12/17/2005 7:51:41 PM PST
by
Shalom Israel
(Well, I got better...)
To: FairOpinion
What can you expect from savages who eat horsemeat?
60
posted on
12/17/2005 7:52:16 PM PST
by
ZULU
(Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20, 21-40, 41-60, 61-80 ... 101-106 next last
Disclaimer:
Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual
posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its
management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the
exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson