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Eavesdropping Program Netted Local Man
WBNS-10TV ^ | Dec. 16

Posted on 12/17/2005 10:12:01 AM PST by iPod Shuffle

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To: geezerwheezer
Here is the bottom line. We have very lax immigration laws, not to mention illegal immigration. The democrats, of course, want every foreigner possible in the U.S and voting so as the water down the vote of Mr. and Mrs. Average American. The democrats see the foreigners as another special interest group they can cater to and buy votes.

This, of course, has some pretty bad ramifications, the least of which are people voting who really shouldn't be. We have already seen the worst of what lax immigration can lead to - 9/11.

If immigration laws were much stricter, foreigners screened much better before being allowed in the country, and the flow of illegal immigration was stopped, we could reasonably have a little more faith and trust in those on American soil. Few have the political nerve to make it tougher for legal and illegal immigrants to enter the country, especially democrats; therefore, we have no choice but to spy on those who are here but really shouldn't be.

We have a choice - severely curtail the flow of foreigners into the country and expand civil rights by pushing government back, OR continue what we're doing. Any other option is asking for more terrorist attacks.

21 posted on 12/17/2005 10:41:21 AM PST by GLDNGUN
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To: norraad

"..all's fair in love an war."

The sooner we learn that, the sooner this war will be over, it is after all, a war of and on intelligence (in more ways than one!)."

All is certainly not fair in love, though. For example you an tell a man that he needs to lose weight but God help the man who tells his girlfriend that.


22 posted on 12/17/2005 10:41:29 AM PST by gondramB (Rightful liberty is unobstructed action within limits of the equal rights of others.)
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To: RightWhale

"If the NYT is worried about a focus on a few hundred individuals, they are missing the big picture."

Yes. The killer issue for the next decade is privacy. And in the united States conservatives have been forced to argue against a right to privacy because somehow privacy has been interpreted to meaning it's ok to kill you unborn baby.

We need to de-link those issue - privacy should not be defined as including the right to abortion but the right to be left alone (i.e. privacy) is a fundamental conservative ideal.


23 posted on 12/17/2005 10:44:30 AM PST by gondramB (Rightful liberty is unobstructed action within limits of the equal rights of others.)
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To: Grampa Dave

I'd like to know which of these three things is worse:

1. The opposition party in the US is leaking to the enemy our SIGINT capabilities;

2. Our counter-terror and counter-espionage efforts are being hamstrung by the opposition party and their useful idiots;

3. Legislating our war effort away, providing for the anarchy that will make the more-than-thou's of Freerepublic happy.


24 posted on 12/17/2005 10:45:31 AM PST by Old Sarge (In a Hole in the Ground, there Lived a Fobbit...)
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To: iPod Shuffle

Like visiting every major city in Europe in a week. Some of the local atmospheres may be missed if all one sees is train stations.


25 posted on 12/17/2005 10:45:54 AM PST by RightWhale (Not transferable -- Good only for this trip)
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To: gondramB

Privacy has been a dead issue since 1956, give or take. Every visit to the supermarket--swipe the card!--is more grist for the intel mill. Mostly it is corporate industry and marketing that cares; commerce is 80% corporate, Gummint is somewhere in the remaining 20%. Pres Bush is not even a blip in the background noise.


26 posted on 12/17/2005 10:50:28 AM PST by RightWhale (Not transferable -- Good only for this trip)
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To: Grampa Dave
are the so called conservatives on Free Republic who are using this bs to hack up GW again.

I'm amazed too.

27 posted on 12/17/2005 10:51:13 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: RightWinger
I suspect FR is being monitored.

I would hope so. We had a troll 2 nights ago that had escaped from a mental institution. Was blathering nonsense about GW and the SS.

28 posted on 12/17/2005 10:53:53 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: iPod Shuffle
it's important to now that if the government can do it to the worst of us,......

Case closed!

29 posted on 12/17/2005 10:54:05 AM PST by CommandoFrank (Peer into the depths of hell and there you will find the face of Islam...)
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To: gondramB; RightWhale
Anything going out over the information conduits can be overheard by the Witcheta lineman."

Yep and it's worse than that on the internet.

Who needs the Witcheta lineman? One good receiver and you've got all cell phones covered.

30 posted on 12/17/2005 10:56:26 AM PST by CommandoFrank (Peer into the depths of hell and there you will find the face of Islam...)
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To: CommandoFrank

Who do you think owns some supercomputers besides the local university? That's right. Retail industry. NSA might have one, too, but they are amateurs.


31 posted on 12/17/2005 11:00:46 AM PST by RightWhale (Not transferable -- Good only for this trip)
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To: RightWhale
NSA might have one, too, but they are amateurs.

"Might' hell... NEVER underestimate the capabilities of NSA.

32 posted on 12/17/2005 11:14:16 AM PST by CommandoFrank (Peer into the depths of hell and there you will find the face of Islam...)
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To: Grampa Dave

There are the unappeasables on FR who will never be happy with anything he does.

Then there are those on FR who don't even like certain freepers (like me) who try to educate lurkers and new freepers with the links between AQ and Iraq that go back to the 90's, along with my suggestions that the president talk about those connections and relationships in order to defeat the leftist mantra that I hear every single day that the president lied about the relationship.

The president isn't perfect, as he'd be the first to admit, but he's the best president of my lifetime and we're lucky to have him. And history will treat him kindly, regardless of what some freepers or the Old Media have to say.


33 posted on 12/17/2005 11:16:00 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: CommandoFrank
Ha! The modern American corporation holds tutorial sessions for intel agencies to bring them up to speed on the latest spinoff tech.

Dick van Dyke--hand me the binos.

The real spy--the what?

34 posted on 12/17/2005 11:20:30 AM PST by RightWhale (Not transferable -- Good only for this trip)
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To: iPod Shuffle

I remember that assclown


35 posted on 12/17/2005 11:32:30 AM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: I_like_good_things_too

BTTT


36 posted on 12/17/2005 11:33:36 AM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Grampa Dave

I note that Ms Bowling had nothing to fear


37 posted on 12/17/2005 11:34:51 AM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: RightWinger

I know FR is being monitored!


38 posted on 12/17/2005 11:35:34 AM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: RightWhale
The modern American corporation holds tutorial sessions for intel agencies to bring them up to speed on the latest spinoff tech.

This is true. The NSA isn't in the business of manufactoring hitech stuff. It is easier to farm it out. 'Here is what we need, build it for us'.

39 posted on 12/17/2005 11:36:12 AM PST by CommandoFrank (Peer into the depths of hell and there you will find the face of Islam...)
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To: Peach
The president isn't perfect,

there are folks who would pan (insert name here) if they were president. Most of the whiners offer no insight as to what they would have done to address said complaints

40 posted on 12/17/2005 11:41:37 AM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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