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CA: Gov. Might Consider Tax Hike, Aide Says (FoR education)
LA Times ^ | 12/17/05 | Evan Halper

Posted on 12/17/2005 8:59:09 AM PST by NormsRevenge

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To: SierraWasp; calcowgirl
France's public debt is spiralling out of control, according to a report commissioned by the French government... The debt stands at €1,117 billion, representing 66 per cent of France's GDP ... The staggering figure encompasses the debt accumulated by the state and local authorities, as well as social and health insurance bodies, over the past few decades. However, it does not include the upcoming time bomb of civil servants' pensions.

The above quote is from another FR article currently posted. I notice that if I replace the word France with California, and "a platform favoring incremental change" with "socialism slow is A-OK with us urban RINO's" the article describes California pretty well.

41 posted on 12/17/2005 9:48:15 PM PST by forester (An economy that is overburdened by government eventually results in collapse)
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To: forester; calcowgirl; Prime Choice
Good Lord! Do you think that's true about France? 66% of GDP excluding a burgeoning pension obligation... NO WONDER THEY'RE SUCH SURRENDER MONKEYS!!!

They NEED somebody to invade them and take them over... even the stupid Murderous Muslers would be an improvement over their Old Europe Socialism!!!

That's it!!! That's the plan!!! They'll let the invading muslims take over, then they think they can agitate another "French Revolution" against the muslims and emerge DEBT FREE to get into second gear on their Old European Socialism. Shouldn't take more than a month, or two... Ha Ha Ha!!!

42 posted on 12/17/2005 10:17:04 PM PST by SierraWasp (The CAGOP is now ruled in secret by the SS!!! Sundheim & SchwartzenRenegger!!! Oh! & the Kennedys!!!)
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To: FairOpinion
The voters of CA, which includes many on this board voted AGAINST Prop. 76,-- the "live within our means" proposition, to control spending,--- supporting the Dems, who spent millions to defeat the reform propositions.

Truth, hence the reaction.

43 posted on 12/17/2005 10:41:18 PM PST by PRND21
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To: FairOpinion
Arnold put Prop. 76 on the ballot to CUT SPENDING

Prop 76 would have put spending reduction formulas in place that would have made it easier for the Governor during budget negotiations. The Governor can still slash spending however. All he needs to do is propose a massively remade spending plan for California and stick with it. No budget passes without his signature. He just needs to dig in his heels. He could also turn up the heat by telling the Dems that no bills pass until the budget passes. Period. He just doesn't have the cajones to do that. Apparently they've been shrunk by all those steroids he took over the years.

44 posted on 12/18/2005 8:10:42 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: Amerigomag

"Both the left and the right voted NO on Prop 76 ..."

That's what puzzles me also - the Conservatives joined hands with the Liberals. Together they worked against the Prop supported by McClintock.
So just who was this Über-mastermind who forged this unlikely alliance ?


45 posted on 12/18/2005 8:27:55 AM PST by RS (Just because they are out to get him doesn't mean he is not guilty)
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To: RS
So just who was this Über-mastermind who forged this unlikely alliance

Pete Wilson, as he has done in the past. Mister stick your finger in the wind policy guru. Mister don't turn your back on me or I'll slide in a facsimile.

46 posted on 12/18/2005 9:27:04 AM PST by Amerigomag
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To: ElkGroveDan
The Governor can still slash spending however. All he needs to do is propose a massively remade spending plan for California and stick with it.

That would be consistent with the platform on which he campaigned. Instead, he has proposed higher and higher spending, combined with unprecedented borrowing, and failed to use the "tools" that are available to him. The contention that the Prop 76 failure results in or justifies tax increases is ludicrous and unsupportable!

47 posted on 12/18/2005 11:15:14 AM PST by calcowgirl
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To: Amerigomag

"Pete Wilson, as he has done in the past. Mister stick your finger in the wind policy guru. "

LOL - So Wilson created the Liberal/Conservative alliance to defeat Prop 76 by supporting it as a "real and much needed reform "


48 posted on 12/18/2005 12:57:07 PM PST by RS (Just because they are out to get him doesn't mean he is not guilty)
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To: SierraWasp; calcowgirl; NormsRevenge; ElkGroveDan
Good Lord! Do you think that's true about France? 66% of GDP excluding a burgeoning pension obligation... NO WONDER THEY'RE SUCH SURRENDER MONKEYS!!!

Yes. Additional posts responding to the article goes on to state: The USA debt in 2004 was 65% of GDP. (see post 27, and also check out the graph in post 24) Same as us, same bad leadership.

Maybe a bull moose party isn't needed. Maybe what is needed is for the grass roots to depose the party leadership. Obviously, they are out of touch and should be removed from their positions of power.

49 posted on 12/18/2005 7:11:37 PM PST by forester (An economy that is overburdened by government eventually results in collapse)
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To: forester
Obviously, they are out of touch and should be removed from their positions of power.

It seems like intentional destruction to me. I agree about removal.

50 posted on 12/18/2005 7:16:44 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl
I agree about removal

BTTT

51 posted on 12/18/2005 9:44:48 PM PST by forester (An economy that is overburdened by government eventually results in collapse)
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To: NormsRevenge

So, he's rewarding the unions with a increase of taxes for the rest of us????

They are responsible for destroying the special election...


52 posted on 12/18/2005 9:47:39 PM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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