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Creation evangelist derides evolution as ‘dumbest’ theory [Kent Hovind Alert!]
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Post ^ | 17 December 2005 | Kayla Bunge

Posted on 12/17/2005 3:58:48 AM PST by PatrickHenry

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To: CarolinaGuitarman
His theory is he can make a lot of money selling videos to boobs with a 3rd grade education.

Especially if he doesn't pay taxes, which seems to be the case so far.

101 posted on 12/17/2005 8:01:55 AM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: Full Court
Perhaps you missed this part of the article:

In a sworn statement to obtain a search warrant, IRS agent Scott Schneider said none of Hovind's enterprises has a business license or tax-exempt status as a nonprofit entity.

"Since 1997, Hovind has engaged in financial transactions indicating sources of income and has made deposits to bank accounts well in excess of $1 million per year during some of these years, which would require the filing of federal income taxes," Schneider said.

I guess I won't wait by the phone for your retraction.

102 posted on 12/17/2005 8:02:03 AM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

Haeckel (1834—1919), a flamboyant German biologist, provided a series of drawings which conveniently demonstrated just this. These pictures appear even today in graduate-level biology textbooks, such as American Academy of Science president Bruce Alberts’ Molecular Biology of the Cell, with no statement that this evidence is a well-established blatant fraud, a shameless fake. Even Darwin, who called this his ‘strongest single class of facts’, was duped.

Photographs of the embryos Haeckel selected demonstrate virtually no resemblance with his drawings. Additionally, Haeckel did not draw the first stage of growth, where closest resemblance was predicted, but selected precisely the stages where five (out of the seven) carefully selected vertebrate classes are least different. For the amphibian class the natural choice would have been a frog, which looks, however, very different than the other four organisms used, so a salamander was used as (uh) representative (ahem) for this class. Apparently all this was not good enough for him. ‘In some cases, Haeckel used the same woodcut to print embryos that were supposedly from different classes’ (p. 91).

Although the embryos vary in size from less than 1 mm to almost 10 mm, Haeckel portrayed them the same size. Wells points out that the processes of cleavage (subdivision in many separate cells without overall growth) and gastrulation (movement and rearrangement of the cells to form organs and other structures) proceed before the point in time drawn by Haeckel. Here is where Darwin’s expectations should be tested, and there is ‘certainly not a pattern in which the earliest stages are the most similar and later stages are more different’ (p. 97). In fact, the evidence points clearly to unrelated lineages and not a common ancestor.

Another myth is the claim human embryos go through a fish-like stage and display gill slits. These pharyngeal folds are not gills.14 Ironically, they’re not even gills in pharyngula-stage fish embryos, although they do develop into these later, ‘but in a reptile, mammal, or bird they develop into other structures entirely (such as the inner ear and parathyroid gland)’ (p. 107). In reptiles, mammals, and birds they never resemble gills, and what is observed are merely some parallel lines in the neck region.

Professor Douglas Futuyma, author of the 1998 textbook Evolutionary Biology, responded in February 2000 via an internet forum to a critic who had accused him of lying by using Haeckel’s drawings as evidence for evolution. He admitted he had not been aware of Haeckel’s dishonesty, a rather staggering admission.


http://www.answersingenesis.org/tj/v15/i2/textbooks.asp


103 posted on 12/17/2005 8:02:07 AM PST by Full Court (Keepers at home, do you think it's optional?)
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To: Senator Bedfellow

Non profit Ministries now have to pay taxes?


104 posted on 12/17/2005 8:03:23 AM PST by Full Court (Keepers at home, do you think it's optional?)
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To: PatrickHenry

So how about one you wise-en-heimers debate him and collect the cash? Nah ya got no facts just snide remarks....jokers...lol!


105 posted on 12/17/2005 8:04:04 AM PST by free_life
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To: sirchtruth
About the place where I stopped reading was "something exploded from nothing."

If you were reading that, you were reading Gish, Morris, Sarfati... someone like that. And you clearly didn't stop.

106 posted on 12/17/2005 8:06:01 AM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: Full Court
Man, you are really showing your ignorance!!!

Assuming what you say is true (Praise [insert your favorite deity's name here]!), you're talking about loss leader marketing materials. Done all of the time in business...and in religion as a business. Fleecing the flock. Most sheep are too dumb to recognize the shears. Say "Baa."

107 posted on 12/17/2005 8:06:52 AM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: Baraonda
"But I do believe that history will, and shall, repeat itself."

I'm sorry, did you just call for the burning of scientists? Its just so laughably Luddite that I want to make sure I understand what you saying.
108 posted on 12/17/2005 8:06:53 AM PST by ndt
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To: Full Court
Well's a Moonie loony. Haeckel's drawings are not used today.

"Even Darwin, who called this his ‘strongest single class of facts’, was duped. "

Absolute lie. He used von Baer's embryological ideas, not Haeckel's.

Apparently you didn't have the courage to read the link I gave tearing to shreds Well's take on Haeckel. Not shocking.
109 posted on 12/17/2005 8:09:20 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Full Court

Even ministers have to pay taxes on their income. If Kent's been doing a crappy job of keeping his personal assets seperate from his ministry's assets, he's got nobody to blame for this but himself.


110 posted on 12/17/2005 8:09:23 AM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: free_life

His *offer* is not winnable because he has redefined what evolution means. It's not an offer made in good faith.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/hovind.html


111 posted on 12/17/2005 8:10:57 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Baraonda
What a lovely person you are! Your scientific arguments are particularly convincing.
112 posted on 12/17/2005 8:14:09 AM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: PatrickHenry

That's a good one! It caught my attention when he posted it.


113 posted on 12/17/2005 8:17:14 AM PST by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
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To: VadeRetro
Your scientific arguments are particularly convincing.

You can't hide from the stake, monkey boy!
</internet idiot mode>

114 posted on 12/17/2005 8:18:09 AM PST by PatrickHenry (... endless horde of misguided Luddites ...)
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To: Baraonda
In another time, another age, its adherents used to be burned at the stake or given the rope. Nowadays, fortunately for the spineless darwinists, they're hiding behind a screen monitor. But I do believe that history will, and shall, repeat itself. The anti-Christs can hide, but can't run away from the stake.

I hope that when they come to get me, you're at the head of the pack.

115 posted on 12/17/2005 8:19:40 AM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: PatrickHenry
Such ambiguity! Do I get burned at it or is it to be driven through my heart?
116 posted on 12/17/2005 8:21:10 AM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: peyton randolph
Fleecing the flock. Most sheep are too dumb to recognize the shears. Say "Baa."

Hey babe, when they guy will come and preach for free, and takes the copyright off all his materials so that anyone can reproduce them, there isn't any fleecing going on.

117 posted on 12/17/2005 8:22:32 AM PST by Full Court (Keepers at home, do you think it's optional?)
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To: All
The conservative, pro-evolution ping list has gone over 330 names this morning. It's one of the largest ping lists on FreeRepublic. We demonstrate that many conservatives are educated, literate, and deeply committed to the advance of science -- a rational enterprise which is a core value of Western Civilization.
118 posted on 12/17/2005 8:23:41 AM PST by PatrickHenry (... endless horde of misguided Luddites ...)
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To: PatrickHenry
Debating Hovind on science would be like debating Ted Bundy on the death penalty.

Still, I'd do it. I love a circus. I presume a few minutes devoted to my adversary's 'career' would be permitted?

119 posted on 12/17/2005 8:24:25 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: VadeRetro
Such ambiguity! Do I get burned at it or is it to be driven through my heart?

If he's thinking logically [stop laughing] but can't run away from the stake. implies that it's mobile.

120 posted on 12/17/2005 8:25:23 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (so natural to mankind is intolerance in whatever they really care about - J S Mill)
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