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C.S. Lewis: The one thing Jesus is not -
The Spectator - UK ^
| December 17, 2005
| C.S. Lewis
Posted on 12/16/2005 11:31:42 AM PST by UnklGene
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To: Ozone34
O'Reilly is a Catholic. (thus)
I don't know what the percentages are of Catholics being "born again" but I doubt it is very high.
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posted on
12/16/2005 12:08:21 PM PST
by
fish hawk
(creatio ex nihilo)
To: UnklGene
This was one of my favorite passages in Mere Christianity. The concept that you had to agree that Jesus was God or that he was a nutter had a great impact on me. I chose the former.
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posted on
12/16/2005 12:12:12 PM PST
by
cammie
To: UnklGene
"God sent the human race what I call good dreams: I mean those queer stories scattered all through the heathen religions about a god who dies and comes to life again and, by his death, has somehow given new life to men."
Uh-uh. God didn't send those notions of false gods.
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posted on
12/16/2005 12:17:25 PM PST
by
RoadTest
(Religion never saved a soul - that's Jesus' job.)
To: fish hawk
What point are you trying to make? If you're a practicing Catholic, you believe Jesus is Lord and he died for your sins. And you say a prayer repenting your sins every week at Mass (The Confitior). If you don't believe that, you're not really a Catholic. These things seem to be very close to what happens when many born-again Christians are born again (seems to be similar to what happened at the last Billy Graham Crusade I saw). So if that's the definition of born again that you accept, then all practicing Catholics are "born again."
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posted on
12/16/2005 12:18:21 PM PST
by
cammie
To: madconservative
If I understand the tale correctly, the main characture in Hidious Strenght is Tolkein himself (Name changed of course). Lewis and Tolkien had a deal, one would write a Sci-Fi and the other a Ghost story, and find which would be more popular. Tolkien's ghost story lost, but, it did have Lewis as the protagonist (name changed of course)
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posted on
12/16/2005 12:18:31 PM PST
by
Conan the Librarian
(The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
To: Mercat
Excellet book as well as The Screwtape letters.
I've been thinking about Lewis much lately, I think I'll re-read those two.
To: cammie
"Born Again" means that one states to himself and God that he accepts Jesus Christ as his personal Lord and Savior. Hoards of "Christians" have not done this. I know many Catholics and Protestants that have never done this. You wonder how I know, I asked them.
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posted on
12/16/2005 12:28:53 PM PST
by
fish hawk
(creatio ex nihilo)
To: UnklGene
Wonderful!!
"MERRY CHRISTMAS!!"
redrock
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posted on
12/16/2005 12:29:36 PM PST
by
redrock
(They'll have to pry the words "MERRY CHRISTMAS"...from my cold dead lips.)
To: don-o; Chaguito
Amusing Ourselves to Death by Neil Postman is an excellent lamentation on this phenomenon.
To: WayneM
My favorite book on Christianity (other than the Bible). I re-read it at least once a year and never fail to gain new insight. It has been one of the most influential books on my life.
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posted on
12/16/2005 12:31:32 PM PST
by
Aquinasfan
(Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
To: Ozone34
Someone should send this passage to Bill O'Reilly. He's always talking about how he regards Jesus as "a great philosopher", Good idea. Who knows, it may even work.
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posted on
12/16/2005 12:32:37 PM PST
by
Aquinasfan
(Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
To: fish hawk
"Born Again" means that one states to himself and God that he accepts Jesus Christ as his personal Lord and Savior. Hoards of "Christians" have not done this. I know many Catholics and Protestants that have never done this. You wonder how I know, I asked them.
Indeed. God isn't going to judge based on catholic vs protestant. It's going to be 'accepted Jesus' or 'didn't accept Jesus'.
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posted on
12/16/2005 12:34:10 PM PST
by
JamesP81
To: fish hawk
I don't know what the percentages are of Catholics being "born again" but I doubt it is very high. We've all been baptized, so we've all been "born again of water and the spirit."
Don't forget the Great Commission either: "Go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of..."
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posted on
12/16/2005 12:35:27 PM PST
by
Aquinasfan
(Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
To: JamesP81
You are right. Many think that sin or say, the lack of it is the ticket. But we know that "all have sinned". But, not to worry as Jesus died for ALL sin. Even the ones we will do today. Sin is not the question but this is: "what did you do with MY SON"?
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posted on
12/16/2005 12:38:37 PM PST
by
fish hawk
(creatio ex nihilo)
To: TeenagedConservative
No doubt about it. Postman just nails it. A book that every consumer of the media should read. It's what, 30 years or more old? But, more relevent today than ever
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posted on
12/16/2005 12:39:30 PM PST
by
don-o
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To: fish hawk
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posted on
12/16/2005 12:40:07 PM PST
by
don-o
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To: Dunstan McShane
No offense!
It was definitely prophetic, but the Merlin stuff was too much for me. Mixing religion and sci-fi is enough for me; when you want to throw magic and Arthurian mythology onto it, it breaks this camel's back.
The extrapolation of the move from atheism to humanism, started with Westin in Perelandra is the best part of Hideous though. That scientist (forget his name) is a great bad guy, and very insightful.
I would like to see Silent in theaters, but IMHO you couldn't do justice to Perelandra's beauty on screen, even with all of the effects in the world. It would be like attempting to computer-animate poetry.
To: UnklGene
I remember the feeling of blunt force trauma when I read these words the first time. The man is right and I was a fool.
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posted on
12/16/2005 12:46:29 PM PST
by
gridlock
(eliminate perverse incentives)
To: Conan the Librarian
Ransom is a linguist, and I could see other similarities to Tolkein as well.
I love the character, but I thought he was better in the first two.
To: don-o
HHMmmmmmm, where are you going?
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posted on
12/16/2005 12:50:45 PM PST
by
fish hawk
(creatio ex nihilo)
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