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Sen. Allen Squishy on Immigration Reform
Human Events ^ | December 15, 2005 | Amanda Carpenter

Posted on 12/16/2005 3:44:12 AM PST by arnoldpalmerfan

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1 posted on 12/16/2005 3:44:15 AM PST by arnoldpalmerfan
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Wonderful. And I've been carrying this sig around for the last few months. Going to get rid of it later today.


2 posted on 12/16/2005 3:52:15 AM PST by Altair333 (Stop illegal immigration: George Allen in 2008)
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I don't think you're going to see any of the GOP candidates really support a fence. They may look at their shoes and mumble some pretty words about controlling our borders, but the strategy is going to be to wait out the grassroots activists and hope they lose interest.

The GOP is up to it's neck in "looking the other way" as far as illegal immigration is concerned, and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

I don't think there's a particularly good chance of either the Republicans or the Democrats fielding a bona fide opponent of illegal immigration in 2008. Although I think the Democrats have a somewhat better chance of doing so; the political calculus favors it more on the Democratic side than the GOP.

It'll be interesting to see whether she-who-must-not-be-named decides to jump in front of the parade on this.


3 posted on 12/16/2005 4:06:04 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: Altair333

Yeah, this shakes my faith in him too. Thought he thought differently, but he doesn't. Think I'll switch over to J.C. Hayworth.


4 posted on 12/16/2005 4:06:47 AM PST by flaglady47
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To: Altair333

All hopes are now dashed for George Allen.


5 posted on 12/16/2005 4:16:28 AM PST by angkor
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Do we have the engineering ability?? LOL thats funny. And he had to think about it?
Tell him to drive around the beltway and look at those multi million dollar fences we put in Virginia to keep the sound down for his constituents there. They are 30 feet high and run for miles and cost a ton of money. Damned right we have the engineering ability. What we need is some politicians with balls, Unfortunately the engineers cant supply those.


6 posted on 12/16/2005 4:24:01 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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I don't get all the talk about this guy for 08. He seems like another limp wristed white-bred patsie politician who will back down to the RATS no different than the rest of them.

We need a scrapper and a street fighter. I am sick of these lilly white phony scared of their own shadow RINO politicians who always overpromise and underdeliver.

If this continues, the RATS are a lock for 08.


7 posted on 12/16/2005 4:29:58 AM PST by chris1
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For you Allen Kool AId drinkers....let this be a sign of things to come.

Allen is squishy...period.

9 posted on 12/16/2005 5:06:58 AM PST by toddrundgrenisgod
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To: Altair333

Another WSJ type open borders free trade at all costs globalist.

Scratch Allen.


10 posted on 12/16/2005 5:08:14 AM PST by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: A. Pole; ninenot; raybbr

Ping...


11 posted on 12/16/2005 5:08:57 AM PST by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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Very disturbing!

My support for Allen just dropped 70-percent.


12 posted on 12/16/2005 5:10:19 AM PST by Edit35
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No conservatives are going to be happy with the choices this year.

Rudy Giuliani is the only street fighter in the bunch. He will not tolerate illegal immigration and he will kick the crap out of Iran and Syria...he will be the best law and order president we could possible elect....but at a price in many social areas....you do the math.

On the other hand...George Allen is a fraud....a weak kneed fraud.

13 posted on 12/16/2005 5:11:35 AM PST by toddrundgrenisgod
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I don't know who "Senator Allen Squishy" is, but it sounds like a good generic name for most of them. ;)


14 posted on 12/16/2005 5:12:08 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("When government does too much, nobody else does much of anything." -- Mark Steyn)
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Rudy Giuliani is the only street fighter in the bunch. He will not tolerate illegal immigration and he will kick the crap out of Iran and Syria...he will be the best law and order president we could possible elect....but at a price in many social areas....you do the math.

Agreed, and I don't think a President's personal views have a whole lot of impact on those social areas, anyway. That ball is in the court of Congress and the Judiciary to sort out. Rudy's leadership abilities put him well ahead of the rest of the pack at this point.

15 posted on 12/16/2005 5:20:02 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("When government does too much, nobody else does much of anything." -- Mark Steyn)
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"We need a scrapper and a street fighter. I am sick of these lilly white phony scared of their own shadow RINO politicians who always overpromise and underdeliver."

Well put. And that goes a long way to explain why I choose to be a Democrat rather than a Republican. I prefer a reliable adversary to a feckless ally.

"If this continues, the Democrats are a lock for 08."

It's beginning to look that way.

I find it amazing that a majority political party that controls both houses of Congress, the Presidency, most legislatures, and most governorships seems bound and determined to seize defeat from the jaws of victory.

I'm just hoping that my party will nominate someone like Mark Warner or Evan Bayh.


16 posted on 12/16/2005 5:40:03 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: Altair333
Wonderful. And I've been carrying this sig around for the last few months.

Yep, he just lost my support......

17 posted on 12/16/2005 6:01:22 AM PST by Thermalseeker
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"Let’s assume we wanted to build the Great Wall of America, which can be done, it would take years and years. I’m watching the Woodrow Wilson Bridge being built here, which is a much more difficult task than building a wall. It’s not over a river." He's also a little shaky on his geography. What does he think the Rio Grande is, a lake?


18 posted on 12/16/2005 6:21:49 AM PST by 3AngelaD
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To: angkor

Hasn't George Allen, Jr., always been hesitant to take firm positions on much of anything, particularly if what he endorses does not have 70 percent voter approval?


19 posted on 12/16/2005 7:32:09 AM PST by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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I find it amazing that a majority political party that controls both houses of Congress, the Presidency, most legislatures, and most governorships seems bound and determined to seize defeat from the jaws of victory.

So, is the problem GOP fear or cowardice? It does sound like we Republicans are doing all we can to promote a Democrat victory in 2008, doesn't it? I was even under the impression that GWB is said to "not mind" if HRC succeeds him.

20 posted on 12/16/2005 7:34:12 AM PST by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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