Posted on 12/15/2005 2:28:09 AM PST by FairOpinion
Do you think we should make UN law into US law?
And what's wrong with doing WHATEVER is necessary to extract information from TERRORISTS, which can save innocent lives?
And a reminder for everyone about those darling terrorist prisoners they are so eager of protecting:
Gitmo Gulag? Serious bad guys at Guantanamo would love to kill you. (Abuse BY prisoners)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1507583/posts
Our young military men and women routinely endure the vilest invective imaginable, including death threats that spill over to guards' families. All soldiers and sailors working "inside the wire" have blacked out their name tags so that the detainees will not learn their identities. Before that step was taken the terrorists were threatening to tell their al-Qaida pals still at large who the guards were.
"We will look you up on the Internet," the prisoners said. "We will find you and slaughter you and your family in your homes at night. We will cut your throats like sheep. We will drink the blood of the infidel."
That is bad enough, but the terrorist prisoners throw more than words at the guards. On a daily basis, American soldiers carrying out their duties within the maximum-security camp are barraged with feces, urine, semen, and spit hurled by the detainees. Secretly fashioned weapons intended for use in attacking guards or fellow detainees are confiscated regularly.
When food or other items are passed through the "bean hole"--an opening approximately 4 inches by 24 inches in the cell doors--the detainees have grabbed at the wrists and arms of the Americans feeding them and tried to break their bones.
When guards enter the cells to remove detainees for interrogation sessions, medical visits, or any number of reasons, detainees sometimes climb on the metal bunks and leap on the guards. They have crammed themselves under the bunks, requiring several guards to extract them. Some have attacked unsuspecting soldiers with steel chairs.
Determined to inflict maximum damage, detainees have groped under the protective face masks of the guards, clawing their faces and trying to gouge eyes and tear mouths.
Keep in mind that our soldiers--young men and young women--are absolutely forbidden from responding in kind. They are constrained to maintain absolute discipline and follow humane operating procedures at all times, at risk of serious punishment.
Documents recently obtained by The Associated Press through a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit show that one detainee punched a guard in the mouth, knocking out his tooth, then began to bite the MP. Several guards were required to repel the prisoner's attack; one soldier who came to the rescue delivered two blows to the inmate's head with a handheld radio.
For this he was dropped in rank to private.
Seesh, what an assertion. Your anti Tancredo bias is showing.
Again I challange you. "FairOpinion"? Opinion, no doubt. Fair? Not by a mile. Those of us who voted for Tancredo know better.
You're willing to join with the Liberals at the Denver Post to stab a conservative in the back for what? What is your REAL agenda? We know Danes, whats yours?
The "Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment" is US law my FRiend. It was ratified by the Senate on October 27, 1990 and became law on November 20, 1994.
Now I ask you, should US law be US law?
Foreign nationals correct? Do you argue for the torture of US citizens?
It helps if your read FIRST, before posting.
The torture ban applies to any foreign terrorist, captured anywhere in the world. It gives them full protection, equivalent to that of US citizens.
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THE ACTUAL TEXT, GIVING THE TERRORIST DETAINEES FULL RIGHTS AND PROTECTION OF THE US CONSTITUTION ANYWHERE, EVEN OUTSIDE THE US AND CREATING US LAW BASED ON THE UN.
THIS IS WHAT THE US CONGRESS IS MAKING LAW:
(a) In General.--"No individual in the custody or under the physical control of the United States Government, regardless of nationality or physical location, shall be subject to cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment.
(b) Construction.--Nothing in this section shall be construed to impose any geographical limitation on the applicability of the prohibition against cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment under this section.
(c) Limitation on Supersedure.--The provisions of this section shall not be superseded, except by a provision of law enacted after the date of the enactment of this Act which specifically repeals, modifies, or supersedes the provisions of this section.
(d) Cruel, Inhuman, or Degrading Treatment or Punishment Defined.--In this section, the term ``cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment'' means the cruel, unusual, and inhumane treatment or punishment prohibited by the Fifth, Eighth, and Fourteenth Amendments to the Constitution of the United States, as defined in the United States Reservations, Declarations and Understandings to the United Nations Convention Against Torture and Other Forms of Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment done at New York, December 10, 1984. "
Why you so scared of Tancredo?
ACU rating for Tom Tancredo:
Representative Tom TANCREDO (R)
Colorado, District 6
2004 Score - 100
Previous Year's Score - 96
Lifetime Score - 98
Years of Service - 6
This might explain why the RINO open borders lobby fears Tancredo.
How many other GOP politicians legislate so well overall?
That's right and look at all the terror they commited imagine than the ones that sneak in with bombs ILLEGALLY!!
And they aren't looking for work and freebies from Americans they are here to KILL and MURDER!
What about the drugs that are being allowed to enter with the ones entering illegally??
We need security on our borders and if 911 wasn't a wake up call for all illegal-invader-lovers than you need a good swift kick out of here along with the lefties who are perpertrating
open border groups.
Exactly the point: we have cracked down on the legal methods that Middle Easterners can enter the country now. They have to find other ways.
GOOD question!!
I thought it was teenagers who wouldn't take them? My sister manages a Subway and the task of hiring employees is like a revolving door. NO ONE wants to work for more than a few months... not just one ethnicity or another.
"Tancredo was also the only Republican to ask Tom Delay to step down way before he was indicted. "
"Tancredo, as I pointed it out, also just voted FOR the "Terrorist Protection Bill"."
You're worse than a normal class of liar. You're purposefully twisting and misrepresenting information which shows the opposite of what you represent.
The Tancredo statement v Delay was well deserved political retribution.
Remember a year ago... Sensenbrenner, Tancredo, and othes held up the Homeland Security bill because they were intent on keeping border security language in it.
Delay and others wanted to REMOVE Border Security provisions from the HOMELAND SECURITY bill. They finally got it out of committee and onto the floor by promising that the border security issue would be addressed by the new congress.
Delay lied, the bill died. Never happened. Delay went back on his word.
Now you're defending Delay, who turned the Homeland Security bill into a porkfest and gutted the border security provisions, into some kind of Homeland Security hero?
Truly twisted!
This isn't a thread about the article you posted - it's a place for you to post as much anti-Tancredo bile as possible in the GUISE of an article.
You can get the finger.
Actually I was using the words of Presidente de Mexico, Vincente Fox...."There is no doubt that Mexicans, filled with dignity, willingness and ability to work, are doing jobs that not even blacks want to do there in the United States," he said in Spanish.
Ah... you made it look like your statement, not a direct quote from Fox.
"....bilt it...."
Do you perhaps mean milk it?
I think your characterization of Buchanan is very wide of the mark.
I wrote "bilk it" - not "bilt it." "Bilk" is a word...and I used it correctly.
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