Judge Weighs Order to Release Two at Gitmo (Chinese Muslims)

AP on Yahoo ^ | 12/14/05 | Pete Yost - ap

[misterrob]

Musrums?

[wideawake]

What kind of law exists in America to allow this to happen?

Like a tribal joker from rural China would ever ask a question like this on his own.

[tallhappy]

Hakim has said representatives of the Chinese government tried to interrogate him at Guantanamo Bay

This is the major news here.

Why on this Earth would we be allowing Chinese communists to go to Gitmo and interrorgate prisoners there?

[FreedomPoster]

Hand him over to the Chinese. They know how to handle Islamic radicals.

[frogjerk]

Judge Weighs Order to Release Two at Gitmo (Chinese Muslims)

The title is misleading but what else is new with the MSM.

[NJ_gent]

"Hand him over to the Chinese. They know how to handle Islamic radicals."

The US military specifically found them to be of no danger to the United States, its interests, or its citizens, yet you want them handed over to a government that will torture and murder them.

Your blinding hatred mirrors that of our enemy. Our enemy's blinding hatred is his Achilles heel. Thankfully, it is not so for our side.

[biggerten]

You funny!

[VeniVidiVici]

Musrums?

LOL!!

I say put 'em back in Pakistan cause you know the press/lawyers are working up to gumption to ask to let them stay in the US.

[JoeGar]

Why don't we return them to where they were found in Pakistan?

[Lejes Rimul]

Hand him over to the Chinese. They know how to handle Islamic radicals.

And Bible-spreading Christians, too. Glad to see you're so gleeful about their brutality.

[Ben Mugged]

Someone more familiar with the legal system needs to check this but I believe the military reports to the President and not the Judicial branch. The judges can rule all they want but actually directing the military to comply is at the discretion of the President.

[twigs]

We shouldn't. But I have no problem with releasing them to the Chinese government. Chinese Western Muslims have been a problem for China for many, many years.

[angkor]

Hand him over to the Chinese. They know how to handle Islamic radicals.

This story is confusing.

We're considering asylum for two Islamic radicals caught opposing U.S. troops in Afghanistan, because they need protection from China?

That's like giving the Bali bombers asylum because Indonesia hgave them a death penalty.

I say turn them over to the Chinese, who will promptly blindfold them and shoot 'em in the head.

[Liberfighter]

A little free trade. We should give them back to the ChiCom's. If we trade with them they can't be all bad...

[Cicero]

If we are still holding them, presumably we have so reason to do so, since it's not cheap to keep prisoners in that style.

The issue is not whether we should release them to China--which would hardly make much sense--but whether a civilian judge should be interfering in military matters. There are many earlier SCOTUS precedents saying that judges should keep out of military concerns unless there are really exceptional reasons to argue otherwise. In this case, a judge has no business meddling that I can see.

[NJ_gent]

"A little free trade. We should give them back to the ChiCom's. If we trade with them they can't be all bad..."

Sure they can; we're just not terribly bright for helping their economic growth. In my opinion, we should be quietly sabotaging the growth of China's economy; not actively assisting it. That, however, is totally aside from their well-documented abuse of human rights and total disregard for human life. As if they never learned their lessons from slaughtering students in the 80s, they're now slaughtering villagers en masse. That, of course, speaks nothing to the forced abortions suffered by the women of China. Forget pro-choice; China takes it to a whole new extreme where you have no choice, nor child.

[angkor]

The US military specifically found them to be of no danger to the United States

They were training with the Taliban. They were at Tora Bora. They are Islamists.

So would it be moral to provide asylum to - say - Aussie-hating, "American-loving" Islamists simply because they allegedly posed no specific threat to the U.S., even though they definitely do to Australia?

Of course not. We'd return such people right to Australia.

Yes, China can and will execute them as Islamist terrorists, which is what they are. That's not our problem.

[angkor]

The issue is not whether we should release them to China--which would hardly make much sense

Huh? It "hardly makes sense" to return Islamist radicals and terrorists to their country of origin, simply because we know their treatment will be harsh?

Sorry, that's what makes no sense. I can't see that China's approach would be any different than that of Saudi, Jordan, or the UAE.

[tallhappy]

Chinese Western Muslims have been a problem for China for many, many years.

Problem in that they were against the communists taking over their country, and casuing famine and jailing, murdering and torturing. The communists did this to every sector they took over.

The Uighurs just wanted to continue in their trading ways.

The Chinese government has been honding the Bush administration to hand them over for years and the administration has steadfastly refused. That should tell you something.