Posted on 12/12/2005 8:53:27 AM PST by HopefulPatriot
You appear to have just recently signed up here, yet you talk as though you own FR. 1) Do you have Jim Robinson's backing to post these threads?
2) Is he aware of EVERYTHING you are posting?
3) Is he in total agreement with your agenda?
4) Does he know that you are trashing the GOP?
5)How much money do you have to back your words?
6)Are you soliciting funds/will you ever do so?
7)Is it your intention to set up a fringe party?
8) Why should ANYONE take you seriously, without knowing anything about who and what you are in real life? Yes, I am asking for your CIV and experience!
9)Are you a retread or an old timer with a new nic?
There are lots of things not in our Constitution. The FFs started printing money before we were a nation ( I guess that this part of American history has evaded you ) and the government hasn't stopped printing money, LEGALLY, yet. Anyone , ANYONE, outside of the mint, who prints money, is a criminal. So says the laws of the United States of America!
Exactly...these post are long on platitudes and high sounding prose, but very short on details and the actual "plan".
Now, a couple questions. Did youse guys try to recruit any FR old timers before embarking upon your quest? If you didn't, you should have. If you did, what was the result?
Maybe I shouldn't be, but I'm amazed at the grief you're getting from some of the hardcore "conservatives" around here, and the complete lack of support from others. Correct me if I'm wrong, but at this point what you're asking is for Freepers to pledge their support for what is essentially FR/JR's mission statement, correct?
Maybe the conservatives on FR are not as hardcore as they would like the rest of us to believe. Poseurs even. Some have even gone so far as to share doubts of their own abilities, eg, the ability to discern chicanery and to break from the herd in the event this is a scam of some sort. Weaklings and simpletons IMO trying to pass themselves off as relevent to, well, something.
In any case, I hope you will continue the mission. I for one am curious to see how things develop here on FR. I think FR is the logical choice to launch you project, and if it falters here; God help us.
FGS
Amen. Also consider that everyone has skeletons in their closets; even the staunchest conservatives. They know how the media operates and that the media is the de facto enemy of conservatives and will stop at nothing to lay bare any indescretions, going back decades if necessary. A potential candidate might say, who needs it.
FGS
Not only are you NOT a constitutional scholar but I gather from your prattle, English is not your first language. They're asking you to commint to a principle, that is, to pledge your life, fortune and sacred honor(if available) to defend our constitution. Are you too chicken$hit?
FGS
I probably know and understand the Constitution far better than you do and I don't "prattle". Neither, unlike you, do I break FR's posting rules and use obscenities in my replies.
We are being "asked", by some unknown, pompous n00b, to join in his delusional crusade; a crusade that is long on rhetoric and extremely short on answers. For all you know, this "movement" is despotic, Hitlerian, or something else as vile. And he ( if it is a he ) is co-opting FR to sell his snake-oil on, as though he owned this site.
But you're welcome to fall for it, as long as you keep a civil tongue in your head. Please, please, PLEASE send him all of your money, when he posts that thread. :-)
Projection and prattle n00bpardons. You must be a riot at the seance.
That's correct.
The rest of your analysis is equally sound.
Here are a few thouhts for the benefit of nopardons and any other Freeper who has questions about the messinger instead of the message:
Thank you FGS for taking the pledge and thank you for defending this effort.
In a nutshell; it is the height of arrogance and selfishness for some to sit here on their self-righteous butts and flame away at anyone trying to actually do something.
Teddy Roosevelt(?):
"It is not the critic who counts, not the one who points out how the strong man stumbled or how the doer of deeds might have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred with sweat and dust and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, and spends himself in a worthy cause; who, if he wins, knows the triumph of high achievement; and who, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat."
Thank you FGS for taking the pledge and thank you for defending this effort.
If for no other reason, there's nothing else out there. The "conservatives" we elected have all but left us at the dance, eh?
FGS
Ping for Freedom!
Trying to bait me into a flame war isn't going to work. ;^)
I'm far too intelligent to fall for 10th rate snake-oil wrapped in the American flag, the Constitution, and a heaping helping of pseudo patriotism, served up by some unknown, site stealing n00b. You want to say that you sign on to all of this? Fine. You want to hand over all of your money to him? Great! And the "rest" of the people falling for this swill? More power to ya! :-)
In any case, WHAT would preclude you from committing to a principle that is stated in JR's own words? Do you have children/grandchildren? What sort of America do you plan to leave for them. This is not about us. It's the same vision the founders had for America. Most of them lost just about everything to bequeath to us these wonderful documents that are our Declaration and Constitution. But you're either unwilling or afraid to defend what was at great expense, given to you?
"Abolish the Senate...."
We don't need to abolish it. We need to return it to it's original purpose - To represent the States and thus be elected by their respective State Legislators.
The House of Representatives was to represent the people and the Representatives were therefore directly elected by the people. That's where the term "People's House comes from.
You voted for Perot, didn't you? :-)
You have no idea what who I am or what I have done. Yet, you feel it incumbent upon you, to insult me, because I can tell dross from gold. Pity that......
You appear to be getting flustered so I'll slow down a bit. What I do see is someone trying to throw cold water on something they know absolutely nothing about. You don't seem to have a clue what it might take to maintain, nay, reclaim our republic. Not a clue, yet you harangue some people that are trying to do something. Without a shred of evidence you disparage their character, motives, and parental lineage. Sick, girl.
Yet, you feel it incumbent upon you, to insult me, because I can tell dross from gold.
Personally, I don't think you could tell the difference between a cow patty and a croissant, but maybe it's just my discerning nature.
You'd fall for anything wrapped in enough hyperbole, it seems. How nice for you. :-)
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